HI. yep I agree about interaction. Once I got used to it I kind of really like it.
regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 04/08/2013, at 9:55 PM, Matt Dierckens <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote: > But interaction makes so much more sense. > Its basically telling VO, this is what I want to focus on, and not like > windows where it reads you every single thing and half the time you have to > read it anyway, and with VO you can choose to or not. > Matt Dierckens > matt.dierck...@gmail.com > > IOS and Macintosh User support, Windsor area > Sight Substitution Centre > > On 2013-08-04, at 7:30 AM, Danny Noonan <da...@familynoonan.net> wrote: > >> I'm thinking of Garage band and how often you interact and stop interacting >> over and over again. There are some key strokes but it's still such a time >> sink. >> >> I don't know how it could be done away with fully but better use of >> interaction by software would certainly make life easier. Have it be more >> universal across apps both native and third party. Making vo j work in most >> if not all multi interaction situations. Some times now it's vo j, other >> times, vo command shift t to switch between tables and other times like in >> the Sendspace wizard, you have 3 or more levels of interaction and have to >> move up 2 levels, vo right and then interact in another chain of levels. >> Arg. >> >> I love the mac but this is 1 of those things that makes the experience far >> sloppier and less consistent and is a major stumbling block on many coming >> to love using the OS despite its many advantages over windows. >> >> Danny. >> >> On 31/07/2013, at 9:03 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I think it is obvious that the interaction deal is one of the most >>> difficult things that somebody who moves from Windows to Mac needs to deal >>> with. What is frustrating is that it is not always clear when one needs to >>> interact. Trial and error and lots of keystrokes and wasted time result. I >>> certainly do agree that tabbing until your finger falls off isn't the best >>> solution. But I do wonder if there might not be a more innovative means of >>> efficiently navigating complex screens. Sometimes, it isn't even clear, for >>> instance, that you are in a situation where interacting again would yield >>> more info. I'm thinking of nested tables as an example. VO doesn't always >>> announce the fact that you have moved into a level 12 or even 3 table or >>> that you could do so by interacting. Maybe that is a coding issue, not a VO >>> issue. I do wonder if there are actual blind users who work for Apple who >>> have experience with other operating systems. I say that not because I want >>> to see some other approach duplicated, but because I've seen too much >>> tunnel vision coming from folks whose only experience is with one or >>> another os. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Otten >>> motte...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.