I'm thinking of Garage band and how often you interact and stop interacting 
over and over again. There are some key strokes but it's still such a time sink.

I don't know how it could be done away with fully but better use of interaction 
by software would certainly make life easier. Have it be more universal across 
apps both native and third party. Making vo j work in most if not all multi 
interaction situations. Some times now it's vo j, other times, vo command shift 
t to switch between tables and other times like in the Sendspace wizard, you 
have 3 or more levels of interaction and have to move up 2 levels, vo right and 
then interact in another chain of levels. Arg.  

I love the mac but this is 1 of those things that makes the experience far 
sloppier and less consistent and is a major stumbling block on many coming to 
love using the OS despite its many advantages over windows.

Danny.

On 31/07/2013, at 9:03 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it is obvious that the interaction deal is one of the most difficult 
> things that somebody who moves from Windows to Mac needs to deal with. What 
> is frustrating is that it is not always clear when one needs to interact. 
> Trial and error and lots of keystrokes and wasted time result. I certainly do 
> agree that tabbing until your finger falls off isn't the best solution. But I 
> do wonder if there might not be a more innovative means of  efficiently 
> navigating complex screens. Sometimes, it isn't even clear, for instance, 
> that you are in a situation where interacting again would yield more info. 
> I'm thinking of nested tables as an example. VO doesn't always announce the 
> fact that you have moved into a level 12 or even 3 table or that you could do 
> so by interacting. Maybe that is a coding issue, not a VO issue. I do wonder 
> if there are actual blind users who work for Apple who have experience with 
> other operating systems. I say that not because I want to see some other 
> approach duplicated, but because I've seen too much tunnel vision coming from 
> folks whose only experience is with one or another os. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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