It works here.  I just tried it with another mailbox.  I'm not at all sure 
why it's not working for you.


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On May 24, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey John,
> 
> Yes, I did exactly what you said to do, and yes, the favorites bar was 
> showing, spent hours on this trying everything VO comma, and the old way VO 
> shift space bar, and couldn't get anything to work. Finally, I gave up and 
> had a sighted person come over and do it in 2 seconds. These are the 
> frustrating things with VO, and would be nice if Apple would address. As far 
> as I believe, there hasn't been one single improvement to VO since Mountain 
> Lion rolled out, and I can only get the same answer from Apple accessibility 
> so many times on several issues. We are aware of the problem, but can't say 
> when it will be fixed. Something so simple as them reversing the web spots so 
> when you click VO command right bracket takes you right instead of left, 
> would have been nice. If they can't fix that which to me seems something very 
> basic to fix, and worked correctly in Lion, I don't put a lot of stock in any 
> VO improvements until the next operating system comes out. I get that only a 
> very small percentage of people use VO, and that Apple cannot commit a great 
> number of resources to it, but just be honest, instead of treating us like 
> idiots waiting for a fix. Don't get me wrong I do appreciate Apple's 
> commitment to accessibility, it's the leading us to think there will be 
> improvements that annoys me.
> On May 24, 2013, at 4:05 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brian,
>>   It isn't easy, but adding mailboxes to the favorites bar is doable with 
>> VoiceOver.  You must be sure the favorites bar is showing first off, and 
>> then, be sure you mark the mailbox for drag and drop and then navigate to 
>> the favorites bar itself to drop the mailbox.  I don't think you need to 
>> interact with the favorites bar though to drop the mailbox.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
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>> 
>> On May 24, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Nicholas,
>>> 
>>> You must be one of the very few lucky ones to never have had an I hate my 
>>> mac day. I tried exactly what you suggested, even quit every application 
>>> closed everything and restarted my mac, then opened mail first after a 
>>> restart, and still got the message VO cannot drag the item as the item 
>>> might be hidden. I then did everything the old fashioned way called someone 
>>> who could see and had them come over. They confirmed that nothing was 
>>> blocking the mailbox I was trying to move, and I was still getting the same 
>>> message. I had them drag and drop the mailbox using the mouse, and they 
>>> were able to do it in 2 seconds, so yes, this is obviously a bug with 
>>> Voiceover which leads to having a I hate my mac day, as I hate not being 
>>> able to do something so simple that should take me two seconds.
>>> On May 24, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>> <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've never had an "I hate Mac day" myself.
>>>> 
>>>> When it says something is hidden, I think it usually means there's some 
>>>> other window or application blocking that item on the screen. Using 
>>>> VoiceOver it is of course very difficult to get an idea of what this might 
>>>> be. So what usually works for me is just closing that window or 
>>>> application and opening it again. Also try closing any other windows you 
>>>> might have open. Use the windows chooser (VO-F2 twice quickly) to see if 
>>>> there are any other windows or notifications open. Try quitting all other 
>>>> applications before you try dragging and dropping again.
>>>> 
>>>> The commands you're using should work. VO-COMMA and VO-PERIOD in full 
>>>> screen mode nearly always works for me.
>>>> 
>>>> Best of luck.
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