?
I am not sure how this applies? this is simply a different ranking rooted
in marketing that showcases the advantages. instead of keeping as I
suppose? things are now, the evaluation blended in among things that have
nothing to do with its use.
why not include more people who are never going to find this list by
sharing information with a broader audience?
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013, Cheree Heppe wrote:
Separate is never equal.
Sent from my IPhone 4S
On 21/04/2013, at 13:16, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
Hi folks,
Interesting discussion.
This is just a suggestion.
Why does access have to be included in the same ratings system at all?
Two ideas come to mind here, again just as a question.
First why not create an a-class or an I class designation. a for accessible
or i for inclusion. Make it a marketing designation, not a strictly developers
one.
as in is your ap good or cool enough for Apple's a-class? give developers a pr
reason to want to make the applications work...just because the designation has
marketing value.
I mean after all according to the center for disease Control stateside some 21
million people fall under the sight issue umbrella. that does not even begin
to count the other populations who benefit from vo functionality.
Take it totally out of the help those people arena and into the marketing
because you want those customers arena. also saves the reworking Erik has
outlined below.
second, and again I am simply wondering, should not Apple have the final and
only firm say as to if an application works with vo?
I mean letting random people as noted here vent their frustration against a
company they do not like would be counter productive. So why base it on
something so individual in the first place?
There are as many variations on how a person uses a product as there are people
using that product.
best to well put it all in a different category anyway. One that rewards Apple
for making the effort, and rewards developers who take the time.
Just my perspective,
Karen
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi, you can't have a rating of 1 to 5 for accessibility. I think this is a
good idea and I'd like it to happen, but I don't think you've thought it
through very well, as with all the others who have voiced it before you. This
is nothing new believe me.
First, you can't have an accessibility rating from one to five. The reason is
that a significant portion of the user base won't be actively using the product
with accessibility features and therefore won't be in a position to rate the
accessibility fairly. The rating has to be from 0 or n/a to 5 excellent or
fully accessible.
Second, if you make an accessibility rating from 0 to 5, that means you have to
make all of the other criteria 0 to 5 as well. In short, you are asking for a
complete rewrite of the database used to track the ratings, not to mention the
front end.
Third, once you have added the ability to have a 0 rating, you then have to
assess how being rated 0 on one of the criteria effects the overall rating of
an app and make sure the math is done properly so the rating system is fair.
Fourth, after you've completely rewritten the rating system, How do you prevent
disenfranchised people who either got bad support or had a product fail or
conflict with other things running on their machine, or who just didn't like
the price and thought they'd show the developer what fore, from rating the
accessibility a 1 without even knowing or caring what that rating is for. That
would mislead users and compromise the rating system, and there are plenty of
people out there lazy, stupid or vindictive enough to do something like that.
Again, I think it's a great idea, and I wish apple had taken it into account
when they were building their software distribution model. But I don't think
any amount of forum posting is going to get a move on this. I'm sure hundreds
of us have written to accessibil...@apple.com and requested this feature, since
it comes up on the list once every three to six months or so. It's on their
radar and if anything can reasonably be done about it, the odds are good that
it will be done. You would be well off adding your voice to the ones who have
already lobbied for this using approved channels and then waiting for it to
happen. Apple has listened to us in the past and though we don't usually hear
from them, we have no reason to think that they aren't still listening.
Best,
Erik Burggraaf
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On 2013-04-21, at 3:29 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Guys,
I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated with
some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. This isn't
to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. There are a lot
of developers who don't respond to emails when you write them. I think that
Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the ios and Mac app stores.
Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to completely accessible. Maybe if
developers see it in writing, they might be inclined to fix it.
I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing here
or there.
I also find it demeaning to contact Apple for credit on completely inaccessible
apps. I'm not talking partially inaccessible. Their are quite a few which we
find work arounds. We have all encountered the ones where developer make no
effort, which is wrong because Apple does provide tools to make apps accessible.
Thank you for your time. I will forward to Apple with feedback given.
AppleVis link:
http://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/app-accessibility-please-read
jP
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