Right, I think Apple decided to go to do things the way they did because they didn't want voiceover hijacking your keyboard like screenreaders on windows do. So, they made the modifier 2 keys instead of one.
Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 1, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't think it's a legal thing at all. Rather, I suspect it's a standards > thing; apple started it that way, so rather than change an integral part of > their UI for a group of users, they kept it. Just my thoughts, and I could be > wrong. Still, if there were a legal issue, then NAVDA wouldn't use caps lock, > yet that is an option in that program. > On Sep 1, 2012, at 10:56 PM, Rodney Haynie <rodney.hay...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Eric, >> Finally got a chance to install and setup these two apps. Great find and I >> love it. >> Since I am still on a Windows box on my 9to5, I always used the CapsLock >> with the screen reader. I am so use to it, and it is so productive. >> I assumed there was some legal issue as to why Apple did not implement this. >> Thanks. >> Rodney >> >> On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:47 PM, Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi Mary, >>> >>> If you follow my podcast you will no longer have a caps lock key but >>> rather a very convenient Voice Over key. If you want your caps lock back >>> you can either go to the extras menu in Mountain Lion for >>> KeyRemaper4Macbook and press the preferences button and then you can >>> either temporarily turn off the key remap with a check box or uncheck it >>> permanently. >>> >>> For me this is a non issue as I almost never use the caps lock key and can >>> use the shift key when needed. The advantage of having the caps lock act >>> as the voice over modifier key is infinitely more important to me. I keep >>> finding ways why this works so well. for example opening a disclosure >>> triangle is now so much easier. I just holde the caps lock key down with >>> my left little finger and tap the \ key with my other little finger. I >>> never take my hands off the home keys. In the past my left hand had to go >>> all the way down to the Option Control keys on the left side completely >>> stopping my typing flow. >>> >>> I still have a lot of muscle memory that causes me to use the old VO Keys >>> but little by little I am increasing my speed by taking advantage of the >>> caps lock. It is great! another key I now use more often is vo w and VO w >>> twice. This is the word and the spelling of a word. with caps lock and w >>> it is fast and easy. with standard vo keys on the bottom left I had to >>> reach my right hand way over to the w key, and this was quite a contortion >>> just to hear what word I was on, I don't need to do this any more. I do it >>> all with my left hand never leaving the home row keys. >>> >>> Hope this info helps. >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Mary Scott <bluespru...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> So what does happen when you need the caps lock? >>>> On Aug 27, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello listers, >>>>> >>>>> I have long wanted the VO keys "Control Option" to be available as the >>>>> caps lock key. this would allow one finger to hold down the keys. Also, >>>>> the location of the Caps Lock key is ideal for reaching many keys that >>>>> need to be pressed with the Voice Over keys. >>>>> >>>>> Using the caps lock key as the VO modifier would dramatically reduce the >>>>> times I find my fingers contorted trying to press multiple keys all over >>>>> the keyboard. >>>>> >>>>> For those of us who type with our fingers on the home row this allows us >>>>> to use the VO modifier while keeping our hands ready to continue typing. >>>>> >>>>> I'm pleased to let you know that this is now possible. Thanks to >>>>> Takayama Fumihiko, the developer of KeyRemap4Macbook. this application >>>>> in conjunction with another application by the same developer allows a >>>>> Mac user to remap the caps lock key as the "Control and Option" keys >>>>> pressed together. >>>>> >>>>> The other application is called PCKeyboardHack. These two apps and a >>>>> file created for VO users makes this possible. >>>>> >>>>> Although a write up of this process would probably be more efficient >>>>> for most of us, that is not my strength. Instead, I have provided a link >>>>> below to a podcast that walks through the set up. >>>>> >>>>> In addition below are links needed to obtain the applications and the >>>>> specially constructed xml file. >>>>> >>>>> Finally, I have provided links to some additional help documentation >>>>> >>>>> The application developer responded to my request for this capability >>>>> within hours of my written request. I have also been asked to contact >>>>> again if there are any other ways the application can help blind users. >>>>> >>>>> This was such a nice response. I'm still amazed as I have written to >>>>> Apple asking for this every few months or so, only getting back the >>>>> standard answer,"thank you for your suggestion." . >>>>> >>>>> I'm so grateful to now have this ability. >>>>> >>>>> Also, please be aware that this application can also remap other keys. >>>>> For example you could make the command key on the right of your space bar >>>>> a Control key giving you another set of Voice Over Keys. >>>>> KeyRemap4Macbook also creates a num pad on your regular keyboard. this >>>>> makes it possible to use num pad commander on a standard keyboard. >>>>> >>>>> This is covered in a excellent post by Ester on the Mac-Access.net list. >>>>> >>>>> One gentle reminder. This is donation ware so if you use this as much as >>>>> I do please support this developer. and, as we come up with more ways >>>>> this application can help and as the OS changes we will want this >>>>> developer to support us. >>>>> >>>>> This was the most challenging podcast I have created so far. If you >>>>> see a need for revision please let me know. >>>>> >>>>> I will be submitting this podcast to applevis.com . In the meantime here >>>>> is a dropbox link >>>>> >>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/KeyRemap4Macbook.mp3 >>>>> >>>>> Below are the links I give in the podcast and also the XML text you will >>>>> need. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Link to KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardHack applications. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en >>>>>> >>>>>> Link to instructions on changing the Caps Lock key to PC application >>>>>> key. the needed key code number is 110. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en >>>>>> >>>>>> Link to private.xml, that changes PC Application Key to >>>>>> Control+Option. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/tekezo/Files/blob/master/KeyRemap4MacBook/private.pc_application_to_controloption/private.xml >>>>>> >>>>>> Link to instructions on how to use private.xml. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/document-private-xml.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Following is the text of the Private xml >>>>>> >>>>>>> <?xml version="1.0"?> >>>>>>> <root> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <item> >>>>>>> <name>Change PC Application Key to Control+Option.</name> >>>>>>> <identifier>private.pc_application_to_controloption</identifier> >>>>>>> <autogen>--KeyToKey-- KeyCode::PC_APPLICATION, KeyCode::OPTION_L, >>>>>>> ModifierFlag::CONTROL_L</autogen> >>>>>>> </item> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> </root> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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