hey Mark thanks so much! going to the window chooser after VO spacing on browse all versions did the trick. I was able to see the vertical splitter and restore back to a new version. so neat!
and regarding the dock…did I say VO space? urgh…I meant VO d lol. my mind was clearly somewhere else! but that problem is fixed too. when I used the window chooser to bring up the versions control, selected a new version and quit text edit, I was able to use VO d to get to the dock. I'm thinking the reason I couldn't before maybe had something to do with me not doing anything with the versions control window which was in the background? I'm not sure why that would make a difference but it all works since using the window chooser to access the versions control! thanks! peace and positivity Jessica and Goldina follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 2011-08-14, at 7:04 PM, Jeffrey Wheatley wrote: > Is it possible to disable versioning with Text Edit when saving to Drop Box? > > Regards, Jeff > > On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:34 PM, Marc Workman wrote: > >> Jessica, >> >> That's right. The version browsing controls do not come up automatically >> for me either. I feel like it used to when I first played around with >> versioning after Lion first came out, but perhaps not. At any rate, you can >> find the vertical slider byVO spacing on the "Browse all Versions" button, >> and then after you are taken back to the main window, bring up the window >> chooser with VO F2 twice. You will then want to look for "Version Browsing >> Controls", and there you will find the vertical slider. >> >> I'm not sure about using VO space to get to the Doc. I use VO D to get to >> the Doc. >> >> I don't have Pages, but I know versioning and auto saving can be included in >> applications by developers, so I would be surprised if it weren't in Pages. >> >> HTH >> >> Marc doesn't come up for me either. >> On 2011-08-11, at 7:08 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote: >> >>> hi Paul, >>> >>> I've been playing with versions a lot today trying to get the hang of it >>> myself. it definitely looks like a neat feature! but I can't seem to get it >>> to work. I get what you mean about saving a version, but when I go to the >>> "browse all versions" and VO space, it just gets sluggish for a minute and >>> then brings me back to the main window where my text is. I don't see the >>> vertical splitter you use to pick a version. is versions on by default? I'm >>> thinking it is because when I pressed command s it said "saving version." >>> but I can't seem to find the vertical splitter to select a different >>> version. >>> >>> also, and this may just be my system, after I quit text edit after playing >>> with versions, I can no longer use VO space to get to the dock. it just >>> dings at me until I unload and reload voiceover! very strange! >>> >>> is it possible to use versions in pages or just text edit? I didn't see the >>> option in pages. >>> thanks! >>> peace and positivity >>> Jessica and Goldina >>> follow me on Twitter: >>> http://www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>> >>> On 2011-08-11, at 5:52 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> Bless you! I absolutely never would have looked for it there. thanks! >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Marc Workman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>> >>>>> It is already possible to disable the lock feature. >>>>> >>>>> Go to system preferences, then time machine, then options. You will find >>>>> a "lock documents" check box. There is also a pop up button where you >>>>> can change how much time has to elapse before a document is locked. >>>>> >>>>> You don't actually have to be using time machine, so it is a little >>>>> strange to find it there, but that's where it is. >>>>> >>>>> Paul, I find auto saving and versioning a little puzzling myself, but I >>>>> can offer a few comments. >>>>> >>>>> First, you need to know that there is a distinction between these two >>>>> things. In your experiment, you didn't actually create versions. I'm >>>>> not even sure it was auto saving so much as resuming where you were when >>>>> you left off. >>>>> >>>>> Auto saving is when the application will automatically save the current >>>>> version, and it happens at regular intervals and when you pause to do >>>>> something else like check email. >>>>> >>>>> When you create a version though, you make the equivalent of another >>>>> document. And I believe this will happen automatically as well after a >>>>> certain interval, but you can also force the saving of a version by using >>>>> command S. >>>>> >>>>> So here's an example and a test you can perform. I open a document at >>>>> 4:00 and use command S to give it a name and put it in the folder I want >>>>> it in. I work on it for half an hour, and that whole time it is auto >>>>> saving all my changes. I hit command S again, and I proceed to make a >>>>> bunch of changes to what I've written, and the whole time it is auto >>>>> saving everything I'm doing, which means I can close text edit and open >>>>> it with all the changes still there. Let's say it's now 5:00, and I hit >>>>> command S again, and I decide that the changes I made are terrible, and I >>>>> want to go back to what I had at 4:30. What I would do is stop >>>>> interacting with the scroll area, then VO right over to the versions menu >>>>> button. I can then browse all versions. Once you VO space on browse all >>>>> versions, you VO right over to the vertical slider, interact with it, >>>>> select the 4:30 version, stop interacting and VO left and VO space on the >>>>> restore button. You could do a similar test with shorter intervals. >>>>> >>>>> I think of versions as snapshots. So I know I'm often reluctant to >>>>> simply delete whole paragraphs from papers that I'm writing. I will >>>>> often copy them into a different document or paste them at the bottom >>>>> until I know for sure I'm not going to use them. With versions, though, >>>>> I can hit command S before I make major revisions like deleting >>>>> paragraphs, and if I note the time, then I can always go back to the >>>>> state it was when I hit command S, which means I don't have to worry >>>>> about saving the paragraphs elsewhere. >>>>> >>>>> I'm sure there are many tips and tricks I'm not aware of, but I hope this >>>>> helps somewhat. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Marc >>>>> auto saving was happening, but you didn't actually create more than one >>>>> version. >>>>> On 2011-08-11, at 2:44 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Paul, >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks. I hope eventually we can just disable that feature. It seems >>>>>> sort of pointless. It doesn't really protect your document, it just >>>>>> creates an extra step if you want to edit it. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>>>> I don't know of a way to turn the feature off, where documents in lion >>>>>>> text edit are locked after a certain time. But I do remember that there >>>>>>> should be an unlock button somewhere. If you unlock, you can just go >>>>>>> ahead and edit as you wish. If you leave the lock for what it is, you >>>>>>> can create a duplicate, while leaving the original unchanged. This is >>>>>>> only theory for me though. I don't know yet how to use versioning, but >>>>>>> hopefully some knowledgeable soul will kick in on this. >>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have a related question. I went on vacation for about the last week >>>>>>>> and a half. When I got back, I found that all my documents had been >>>>>>>> "locked". Upon returning home, when I opened a document and began to >>>>>>>> type, I got the message, "this document has been locked because you >>>>>>>> haven't made changes to it in a while". The while was not all that >>>>>>>> long, and I hadn't made any changes because I wasn't here to make >>>>>>>> them. It's been kind of annoying. Does anyone know if there's a way >>>>>>>> to turn that feature off? >>>>>>>> TIA, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi listers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've been playing a while now with versioning in text edit. The >>>>>>>>> concept, I now understand for a small part. But doing it is a >>>>>>>>> different matter. I've been reading the help within text edit, but it >>>>>>>>> doesn't say much about versioning, except that it keeps versions on a >>>>>>>>> daily, weekly and monthly bases. I'm interested to learn how this >>>>>>>>> works. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When you open text edit, you can now simply type away, and if I am >>>>>>>>> correct, you can forget about saving your document. I tried this, and >>>>>>>>> indeed it is true. You can now hit command q, and text edit will >>>>>>>>> close. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Where would text edit keep the test document I just typed? >>>>>>>>> 2. Has any of you played with the versioning system, enough to know >>>>>>>>> how we can use it? I'm hoping someone who writes a lot may be able to >>>>>>>>> fill in the gap in my knowledge here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sometimes, I find a versions menu with VoiceOver. But when I try to >>>>>>>>> test the feature, it won't appear. Here's what I do. >>>>>>>>> 1. I fire up text edit and type a few lines. >>>>>>>>> 2. Hit command q to quit text edit. >>>>>>>>> 3. Reopen txt edit and the document is still there. >>>>>>>>> 4. Now command a, to select all, and backspace to delete the text. >>>>>>>>> . Close text edit. >>>>>>>>> 6. Open it again and you have a blank document. >>>>>>>>> 7. I try to find the versions menu but it seems not to be there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How does one make a productive start with versioning in text edit? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Interested to learn about this. I type a lot, but I am used to saving >>>>>>>>> things explicitly. However, the new versioning system can come in >>>>>>>>> handy when I make a miss edit, save it, and would later love to >>>>>>>>> revert. 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