Bless you! I absolutely never would have looked for it there. thanks! Donna
On Aug 11, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Marc Workman wrote: > Hi Donna, > > It is already possible to disable the lock feature. > > Go to system preferences, then time machine, then options. You will find a > "lock documents" check box. There is also a pop up button where you can > change how much time has to elapse before a document is locked. > > You don't actually have to be using time machine, so it is a little strange > to find it there, but that's where it is. > > Paul, I find auto saving and versioning a little puzzling myself, but I can > offer a few comments. > > First, you need to know that there is a distinction between these two things. > In your experiment, you didn't actually create versions. I'm not even sure > it was auto saving so much as resuming where you were when you left off. > > Auto saving is when the application will automatically save the current > version, and it happens at regular intervals and when you pause to do > something else like check email. > > When you create a version though, you make the equivalent of another > document. And I believe this will happen automatically as well after a > certain interval, but you can also force the saving of a version by using > command S. > > So here's an example and a test you can perform. I open a document at 4:00 > and use command S to give it a name and put it in the folder I want it in. I > work on it for half an hour, and that whole time it is auto saving all my > changes. I hit command S again, and I proceed to make a bunch of changes to > what I've written, and the whole time it is auto saving everything I'm doing, > which means I can close text edit and open it with all the changes still > there. Let's say it's now 5:00, and I hit command S again, and I decide that > the changes I made are terrible, and I want to go back to what I had at 4:30. > What I would do is stop interacting with the scroll area, then VO right over > to the versions menu button. I can then browse all versions. Once you VO > space on browse all versions, you VO right over to the vertical slider, > interact with it, select the 4:30 version, stop interacting and VO left and > VO space on the restore button. You could do a similar test with shorter > intervals. > > I think of versions as snapshots. So I know I'm often reluctant to simply > delete whole paragraphs from papers that I'm writing. I will often copy them > into a different document or paste them at the bottom until I know for sure > I'm not going to use them. With versions, though, I can hit command S before > I make major revisions like deleting paragraphs, and if I note the time, then > I can always go back to the state it was when I hit command S, which means I > don't have to worry about saving the paragraphs elsewhere. > > I'm sure there are many tips and tricks I'm not aware of, but I hope this > helps somewhat. > > Cheers, > > Marc > auto saving was happening, but you didn't actually create more than one > version. > On 2011-08-11, at 2:44 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> thanks. I hope eventually we can just disable that feature. It seems sort >> of pointless. It doesn't really protect your document, it just creates an >> extra step if you want to edit it. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: >> >>> Hi Donna, >>> I don't know of a way to turn the feature off, where documents in lion text >>> edit are locked after a certain time. But I do remember that there should >>> be an unlock button somewhere. If you unlock, you can just go ahead and >>> edit as you wish. If you leave the lock for what it is, you can create a >>> duplicate, while leaving the original unchanged. This is only theory for me >>> though. I don't know yet how to use versioning, but hopefully some >>> knowledgeable soul will kick in on this. >>> Paul. >>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I have a related question. I went on vacation for about the last week and >>>> a half. When I got back, I found that all my documents had been "locked". >>>> Upon returning home, when I opened a document and began to type, I got >>>> the message, "this document has been locked because you haven't made >>>> changes to it in a while". The while was not all that long, and I hadn't >>>> made any changes because I wasn't here to make them. It's been kind of >>>> annoying. Does anyone know if there's a way to turn that feature off? >>>> TIA, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi listers, >>>>> >>>>> I've been playing a while now with versioning in text edit. The concept, >>>>> I now understand for a small part. But doing it is a different matter. >>>>> I've been reading the help within text edit, but it doesn't say much >>>>> about versioning, except that it keeps versions on a daily, weekly and >>>>> monthly bases. I'm interested to learn how this works. >>>>> >>>>> When you open text edit, you can now simply type away, and if I am >>>>> correct, you can forget about saving your document. I tried this, and >>>>> indeed it is true. You can now hit command q, and text edit will close. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Where would text edit keep the test document I just typed? >>>>> 2. Has any of you played with the versioning system, enough to know how >>>>> we can use it? I'm hoping someone who writes a lot may be able to fill in >>>>> the gap in my knowledge here. >>>>> >>>>> Sometimes, I find a versions menu with VoiceOver. But when I try to test >>>>> the feature, it won't appear. Here's what I do. >>>>> 1. I fire up text edit and type a few lines. >>>>> 2. Hit command q to quit text edit. >>>>> 3. Reopen txt edit and the document is still there. >>>>> 4. Now command a, to select all, and backspace to delete the text. >>>>> . Close text edit. >>>>> 6. Open it again and you have a blank document. >>>>> 7. I try to find the versions menu but it seems not to be there. >>>>> >>>>> How does one make a productive start with versioning in text edit? >>>>> >>>>> Interested to learn about this. I type a lot, but I am used to saving >>>>> things explicitly. However, the new versioning system can come in handy >>>>> when I make a miss edit, save it, and would later love to revert. 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