Jessica, That's right. The version browsing controls do not come up automatically for me either. I feel like it used to when I first played around with versioning after Lion first came out, but perhaps not. At any rate, you can find the vertical slider byVO spacing on the "Browse all Versions" button, and then after you are taken back to the main window, bring up the window chooser with VO F2 twice. You will then want to look for "Version Browsing Controls", and there you will find the vertical slider.
I'm not sure about using VO space to get to the Doc. I use VO D to get to the Doc. I don't have Pages, but I know versioning and auto saving can be included in applications by developers, so I would be surprised if it weren't in Pages. HTH Marc doesn't come up for me either. On 2011-08-11, at 7:08 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote: > hi Paul, > > I've been playing with versions a lot today trying to get the hang of it > myself. it definitely looks like a neat feature! but I can't seem to get it > to work. I get what you mean about saving a version, but when I go to the > "browse all versions" and VO space, it just gets sluggish for a minute and > then brings me back to the main window where my text is. I don't see the > vertical splitter you use to pick a version. is versions on by default? I'm > thinking it is because when I pressed command s it said "saving version." but > I can't seem to find the vertical splitter to select a different version. > > also, and this may just be my system, after I quit text edit after playing > with versions, I can no longer use VO space to get to the dock. it just dings > at me until I unload and reload voiceover! very strange! > > is it possible to use versions in pages or just text edit? I didn't see the > option in pages. > thanks! > peace and positivity > Jessica and Goldina > follow me on Twitter: > http://www.twitter.com/canadian_diva > > On 2011-08-11, at 5:52 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Bless you! I absolutely never would have looked for it there. thanks! >> Donna >> >> On Aug 11, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Marc Workman wrote: >> >>> Hi Donna, >>> >>> It is already possible to disable the lock feature. >>> >>> Go to system preferences, then time machine, then options. You will find a >>> "lock documents" check box. There is also a pop up button where you can >>> change how much time has to elapse before a document is locked. >>> >>> You don't actually have to be using time machine, so it is a little strange >>> to find it there, but that's where it is. >>> >>> Paul, I find auto saving and versioning a little puzzling myself, but I can >>> offer a few comments. >>> >>> First, you need to know that there is a distinction between these two >>> things. In your experiment, you didn't actually create versions. I'm not >>> even sure it was auto saving so much as resuming where you were when you >>> left off. >>> >>> Auto saving is when the application will automatically save the current >>> version, and it happens at regular intervals and when you pause to do >>> something else like check email. >>> >>> When you create a version though, you make the equivalent of another >>> document. And I believe this will happen automatically as well after a >>> certain interval, but you can also force the saving of a version by using >>> command S. >>> >>> So here's an example and a test you can perform. I open a document at 4:00 >>> and use command S to give it a name and put it in the folder I want it in. >>> I work on it for half an hour, and that whole time it is auto saving all my >>> changes. I hit command S again, and I proceed to make a bunch of changes >>> to what I've written, and the whole time it is auto saving everything I'm >>> doing, which means I can close text edit and open it with all the changes >>> still there. Let's say it's now 5:00, and I hit command S again, and I >>> decide that the changes I made are terrible, and I want to go back to what >>> I had at 4:30. What I would do is stop interacting with the scroll area, >>> then VO right over to the versions menu button. I can then browse all >>> versions. Once you VO space on browse all versions, you VO right over to >>> the vertical slider, interact with it, select the 4:30 version, stop >>> interacting and VO left and VO space on the restore button. You could do a >>> similar test with shorter intervals. >>> >>> I think of versions as snapshots. So I know I'm often reluctant to simply >>> delete whole paragraphs from papers that I'm writing. I will often copy >>> them into a different document or paste them at the bottom until I know for >>> sure I'm not going to use them. With versions, though, I can hit command S >>> before I make major revisions like deleting paragraphs, and if I note the >>> time, then I can always go back to the state it was when I hit command S, >>> which means I don't have to worry about saving the paragraphs elsewhere. >>> >>> I'm sure there are many tips and tricks I'm not aware of, but I hope this >>> helps somewhat. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Marc >>> auto saving was happening, but you didn't actually create more than one >>> version. >>> On 2011-08-11, at 2:44 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Paul, >>>> >>>> thanks. I hope eventually we can just disable that feature. It seems sort >>>> of pointless. It doesn't really protect your document, it just creates an >>>> extra step if you want to edit it. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>> I don't know of a way to turn the feature off, where documents in lion >>>>> text edit are locked after a certain time. But I do remember that there >>>>> should be an unlock button somewhere. If you unlock, you can just go >>>>> ahead and edit as you wish. If you leave the lock for what it is, you can >>>>> create a duplicate, while leaving the original unchanged. This is only >>>>> theory for me though. I don't know yet how to use versioning, but >>>>> hopefully some knowledgeable soul will kick in on this. >>>>> Paul. >>>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a related question. I went on vacation for about the last week >>>>>> and a half. When I got back, I found that all my documents had been >>>>>> "locked". Upon returning home, when I opened a document and began to >>>>>> type, I got the message, "this document has been locked because you >>>>>> haven't made changes to it in a while". The while was not all that >>>>>> long, and I hadn't made any changes because I wasn't here to make them. >>>>>> It's been kind of annoying. Does anyone know if there's a way to turn >>>>>> that feature off? >>>>>> TIA, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi listers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been playing a while now with versioning in text edit. The >>>>>>> concept, I now understand for a small part. But doing it is a different >>>>>>> matter. I've been reading the help within text edit, but it doesn't say >>>>>>> much about versioning, except that it keeps versions on a daily, weekly >>>>>>> and monthly bases. I'm interested to learn how this works. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you open text edit, you can now simply type away, and if I am >>>>>>> correct, you can forget about saving your document. I tried this, and >>>>>>> indeed it is true. You can now hit command q, and text edit will close. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Where would text edit keep the test document I just typed? >>>>>>> 2. Has any of you played with the versioning system, enough to know how >>>>>>> we can use it? I'm hoping someone who writes a lot may be able to fill >>>>>>> in the gap in my knowledge here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sometimes, I find a versions menu with VoiceOver. But when I try to >>>>>>> test the feature, it won't appear. Here's what I do. >>>>>>> 1. I fire up text edit and type a few lines. >>>>>>> 2. Hit command q to quit text edit. >>>>>>> 3. Reopen txt edit and the document is still there. >>>>>>> 4. Now command a, to select all, and backspace to delete the text. >>>>>>> . Close text edit. >>>>>>> 6. Open it again and you have a blank document. >>>>>>> 7. I try to find the versions menu but it seems not to be there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How does one make a productive start with versioning in text edit? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Interested to learn about this. I type a lot, but I am used to saving >>>>>>> things explicitly. However, the new versioning system can come in handy >>>>>>> when I make a miss edit, save it, and would later love to revert. 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