Is it possible to disable versioning with Text Edit when saving to Drop Box?
Regards, Jeff On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:34 PM, Marc Workman wrote: > Jessica, > > That's right. The version browsing controls do not come up automatically for > me either. I feel like it used to when I first played around with versioning > after Lion first came out, but perhaps not. At any rate, you can find the > vertical slider byVO spacing on the "Browse all Versions" button, and then > after you are taken back to the main window, bring up the window chooser with > VO F2 twice. You will then want to look for "Version Browsing Controls", and > there you will find the vertical slider. > > I'm not sure about using VO space to get to the Doc. I use VO D to get to > the Doc. > > I don't have Pages, but I know versioning and auto saving can be included in > applications by developers, so I would be surprised if it weren't in Pages. > > HTH > > Marc doesn't come up for me either. > On 2011-08-11, at 7:08 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote: > >> hi Paul, >> >> I've been playing with versions a lot today trying to get the hang of it >> myself. it definitely looks like a neat feature! but I can't seem to get it >> to work. I get what you mean about saving a version, but when I go to the >> "browse all versions" and VO space, it just gets sluggish for a minute and >> then brings me back to the main window where my text is. I don't see the >> vertical splitter you use to pick a version. is versions on by default? I'm >> thinking it is because when I pressed command s it said "saving version." >> but I can't seem to find the vertical splitter to select a different version. >> >> also, and this may just be my system, after I quit text edit after playing >> with versions, I can no longer use VO space to get to the dock. it just >> dings at me until I unload and reload voiceover! very strange! >> >> is it possible to use versions in pages or just text edit? I didn't see the >> option in pages. >> thanks! >> peace and positivity >> Jessica and Goldina >> follow me on Twitter: >> http://www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> >> On 2011-08-11, at 5:52 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Bless you! I absolutely never would have looked for it there. thanks! >>> Donna >>> >>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Marc Workman wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Donna, >>>> >>>> It is already possible to disable the lock feature. >>>> >>>> Go to system preferences, then time machine, then options. You will find >>>> a "lock documents" check box. There is also a pop up button where you can >>>> change how much time has to elapse before a document is locked. >>>> >>>> You don't actually have to be using time machine, so it is a little >>>> strange to find it there, but that's where it is. >>>> >>>> Paul, I find auto saving and versioning a little puzzling myself, but I >>>> can offer a few comments. >>>> >>>> First, you need to know that there is a distinction between these two >>>> things. In your experiment, you didn't actually create versions. I'm not >>>> even sure it was auto saving so much as resuming where you were when you >>>> left off. >>>> >>>> Auto saving is when the application will automatically save the current >>>> version, and it happens at regular intervals and when you pause to do >>>> something else like check email. >>>> >>>> When you create a version though, you make the equivalent of another >>>> document. And I believe this will happen automatically as well after a >>>> certain interval, but you can also force the saving of a version by using >>>> command S. >>>> >>>> So here's an example and a test you can perform. I open a document at >>>> 4:00 and use command S to give it a name and put it in the folder I want >>>> it in. I work on it for half an hour, and that whole time it is auto >>>> saving all my changes. I hit command S again, and I proceed to make a >>>> bunch of changes to what I've written, and the whole time it is auto >>>> saving everything I'm doing, which means I can close text edit and open it >>>> with all the changes still there. Let's say it's now 5:00, and I hit >>>> command S again, and I decide that the changes I made are terrible, and I >>>> want to go back to what I had at 4:30. What I would do is stop >>>> interacting with the scroll area, then VO right over to the versions menu >>>> button. I can then browse all versions. Once you VO space on browse all >>>> versions, you VO right over to the vertical slider, interact with it, >>>> select the 4:30 version, stop interacting and VO left and VO space on the >>>> restore button. You could do a similar test with shorter intervals. >>>> >>>> I think of versions as snapshots. So I know I'm often reluctant to simply >>>> delete whole paragraphs from papers that I'm writing. I will often copy >>>> them into a different document or paste them at the bottom until I know >>>> for sure I'm not going to use them. With versions, though, I can hit >>>> command S before I make major revisions like deleting paragraphs, and if I >>>> note the time, then I can always go back to the state it was when I hit >>>> command S, which means I don't have to worry about saving the paragraphs >>>> elsewhere. >>>> >>>> I'm sure there are many tips and tricks I'm not aware of, but I hope this >>>> helps somewhat. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Marc >>>> auto saving was happening, but you didn't actually create more than one >>>> version. >>>> On 2011-08-11, at 2:44 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Paul, >>>>> >>>>> thanks. I hope eventually we can just disable that feature. It seems >>>>> sort of pointless. It doesn't really protect your document, it just >>>>> creates an extra step if you want to edit it. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>>> I don't know of a way to turn the feature off, where documents in lion >>>>>> text edit are locked after a certain time. But I do remember that there >>>>>> should be an unlock button somewhere. If you unlock, you can just go >>>>>> ahead and edit as you wish. If you leave the lock for what it is, you >>>>>> can create a duplicate, while leaving the original unchanged. This is >>>>>> only theory for me though. I don't know yet how to use versioning, but >>>>>> hopefully some knowledgeable soul will kick in on this. >>>>>> Paul. >>>>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a related question. I went on vacation for about the last week >>>>>>> and a half. When I got back, I found that all my documents had been >>>>>>> "locked". Upon returning home, when I opened a document and began to >>>>>>> type, I got the message, "this document has been locked because you >>>>>>> haven't made changes to it in a while". The while was not all that >>>>>>> long, and I hadn't made any changes because I wasn't here to make them. >>>>>>> It's been kind of annoying. Does anyone know if there's a way to turn >>>>>>> that feature off? >>>>>>> TIA, >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi listers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been playing a while now with versioning in text edit. The >>>>>>>> concept, I now understand for a small part. But doing it is a >>>>>>>> different matter. I've been reading the help within text edit, but it >>>>>>>> doesn't say much about versioning, except that it keeps versions on a >>>>>>>> daily, weekly and monthly bases. I'm interested to learn how this >>>>>>>> works. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When you open text edit, you can now simply type away, and if I am >>>>>>>> correct, you can forget about saving your document. I tried this, and >>>>>>>> indeed it is true. You can now hit command q, and text edit will close. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Where would text edit keep the test document I just typed? >>>>>>>> 2. Has any of you played with the versioning system, enough to know >>>>>>>> how we can use it? I'm hoping someone who writes a lot may be able to >>>>>>>> fill in the gap in my knowledge here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sometimes, I find a versions menu with VoiceOver. But when I try to >>>>>>>> test the feature, it won't appear. Here's what I do. >>>>>>>> 1. I fire up text edit and type a few lines. >>>>>>>> 2. Hit command q to quit text edit. >>>>>>>> 3. Reopen txt edit and the document is still there. >>>>>>>> 4. Now command a, to select all, and backspace to delete the text. >>>>>>>> . Close text edit. >>>>>>>> 6. Open it again and you have a blank document. >>>>>>>> 7. I try to find the versions menu but it seems not to be there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How does one make a productive start with versioning in text edit? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interested to learn about this. I type a lot, but I am used to saving >>>>>>>> things explicitly. However, the new versioning system can come in >>>>>>>> handy when I make a miss edit, save it, and would later love to >>>>>>>> revert. If you have any pointers where to find blind friendly >>>>>>>> information on version, I'm interested. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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