hi Paul, I've been playing with versions a lot today trying to get the hang of it myself. it definitely looks like a neat feature! but I can't seem to get it to work. I get what you mean about saving a version, but when I go to the "browse all versions" and VO space, it just gets sluggish for a minute and then brings me back to the main window where my text is. I don't see the vertical splitter you use to pick a version. is versions on by default? I'm thinking it is because when I pressed command s it said "saving version." but I can't seem to find the vertical splitter to select a different version.
also, and this may just be my system, after I quit text edit after playing with versions, I can no longer use VO space to get to the dock. it just dings at me until I unload and reload voiceover! very strange! is it possible to use versions in pages or just text edit? I didn't see the option in pages. thanks! peace and positivity Jessica and Goldina follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 2011-08-11, at 5:52 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Bless you! I absolutely never would have looked for it there. thanks! > Donna > > On Aug 11, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Marc Workman wrote: > >> Hi Donna, >> >> It is already possible to disable the lock feature. >> >> Go to system preferences, then time machine, then options. You will find a >> "lock documents" check box. There is also a pop up button where you can >> change how much time has to elapse before a document is locked. >> >> You don't actually have to be using time machine, so it is a little strange >> to find it there, but that's where it is. >> >> Paul, I find auto saving and versioning a little puzzling myself, but I can >> offer a few comments. >> >> First, you need to know that there is a distinction between these two >> things. In your experiment, you didn't actually create versions. I'm not >> even sure it was auto saving so much as resuming where you were when you >> left off. >> >> Auto saving is when the application will automatically save the current >> version, and it happens at regular intervals and when you pause to do >> something else like check email. >> >> When you create a version though, you make the equivalent of another >> document. And I believe this will happen automatically as well after a >> certain interval, but you can also force the saving of a version by using >> command S. >> >> So here's an example and a test you can perform. I open a document at 4:00 >> and use command S to give it a name and put it in the folder I want it in. >> I work on it for half an hour, and that whole time it is auto saving all my >> changes. I hit command S again, and I proceed to make a bunch of changes to >> what I've written, and the whole time it is auto saving everything I'm >> doing, which means I can close text edit and open it with all the changes >> still there. Let's say it's now 5:00, and I hit command S again, and I >> decide that the changes I made are terrible, and I want to go back to what I >> had at 4:30. What I would do is stop interacting with the scroll area, then >> VO right over to the versions menu button. I can then browse all versions. >> Once you VO space on browse all versions, you VO right over to the vertical >> slider, interact with it, select the 4:30 version, stop interacting and VO >> left and VO space on the restore button. You could do a similar test with >> shorter intervals. >> >> I think of versions as snapshots. So I know I'm often reluctant to simply >> delete whole paragraphs from papers that I'm writing. I will often copy >> them into a different document or paste them at the bottom until I know for >> sure I'm not going to use them. With versions, though, I can hit command S >> before I make major revisions like deleting paragraphs, and if I note the >> time, then I can always go back to the state it was when I hit command S, >> which means I don't have to worry about saving the paragraphs elsewhere. >> >> I'm sure there are many tips and tricks I'm not aware of, but I hope this >> helps somewhat. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Marc >> auto saving was happening, but you didn't actually create more than one >> version. >> On 2011-08-11, at 2:44 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> thanks. I hope eventually we can just disable that feature. It seems sort >>> of pointless. It doesn't really protect your document, it just creates an >>> extra step if you want to edit it. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Donna, >>>> I don't know of a way to turn the feature off, where documents in lion >>>> text edit are locked after a certain time. But I do remember that there >>>> should be an unlock button somewhere. If you unlock, you can just go ahead >>>> and edit as you wish. If you leave the lock for what it is, you can create >>>> a duplicate, while leaving the original unchanged. This is only theory for >>>> me though. I don't know yet how to use versioning, but hopefully some >>>> knowledgeable soul will kick in on this. >>>> Paul. >>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I have a related question. I went on vacation for about the last week >>>>> and a half. When I got back, I found that all my documents had been >>>>> "locked". Upon returning home, when I opened a document and began to >>>>> type, I got the message, "this document has been locked because you >>>>> haven't made changes to it in a while". The while was not all that long, >>>>> and I hadn't made any changes because I wasn't here to make them. It's >>>>> been kind of annoying. Does anyone know if there's a way to turn that >>>>> feature off? >>>>> TIA, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi listers, >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been playing a while now with versioning in text edit. The concept, >>>>>> I now understand for a small part. But doing it is a different matter. >>>>>> I've been reading the help within text edit, but it doesn't say much >>>>>> about versioning, except that it keeps versions on a daily, weekly and >>>>>> monthly bases. I'm interested to learn how this works. >>>>>> >>>>>> When you open text edit, you can now simply type away, and if I am >>>>>> correct, you can forget about saving your document. I tried this, and >>>>>> indeed it is true. You can now hit command q, and text edit will close. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Where would text edit keep the test document I just typed? >>>>>> 2. Has any of you played with the versioning system, enough to know how >>>>>> we can use it? I'm hoping someone who writes a lot may be able to fill >>>>>> in the gap in my knowledge here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sometimes, I find a versions menu with VoiceOver. But when I try to test >>>>>> the feature, it won't appear. Here's what I do. >>>>>> 1. I fire up text edit and type a few lines. >>>>>> 2. Hit command q to quit text edit. >>>>>> 3. Reopen txt edit and the document is still there. >>>>>> 4. Now command a, to select all, and backspace to delete the text. >>>>>> . Close text edit. >>>>>> 6. Open it again and you have a blank document. >>>>>> 7. I try to find the versions menu but it seems not to be there. >>>>>> >>>>>> How does one make a productive start with versioning in text edit? >>>>>> >>>>>> Interested to learn about this. I type a lot, but I am used to saving >>>>>> things explicitly. However, the new versioning system can come in handy >>>>>> when I make a miss edit, save it, and would later love to revert. 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