Somehow that check box came unchecked when I installed Lion. I had to go in and re-check it. Best, Donna
On Jul 21, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > As for the welcome message not being said on start up, there is a text box in > your preferences for you to tell what you want voice over to say on start up. > For example, I have mine set to say "Hello Kliphton, voice over ready" So I > thought this was a pretty handy feature, to have it say whatever you want. I > am also not experiencing the sluggishness in mail, I actually like it better > than sl mail. But I also have only been using a mac for a little over a > month and still have a lot to learn. HTH > Kliphton SR > (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com > Sent from my IMac > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: > >> I have read online that the general slowness has to do with spotlight >> indexing your files. IF you do a command space and then down arrow it will >> tell you how much time is left to index your files. I'm just gonna leave my >> macbook running until all the indexing is complete. Hopefully that will >> speed it up tremendously. I'm sure it will, as there is a lot more disk >> activity going on right now. >> >> On Jul 21, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> >>> Hi! I completely agree with your observations regarding VO at startup. The >>> boot time is at least 10 seconds longer now, and >>> VO has yet to say its welcome message. Furthermore, that >>> "com.apple.dock.extras" thing is already driving me bananas! I >>> might be brave and attempt a clean install once a podcast is posted to give >>> detailed instructions, but like you, I wonder if >>> it would make any difference. I don't have any of the issues you're >>> describing with mail, and haven't tried to play with >>> saphari yet, but this start-up stuff really needs to get figured out. >>> I've also discovered that VO doesn't tell me whether or not trackpad >>> commander is on. I don't use it much, but like to >>> practice from time to time, and either I'm not doing the jesture right to >>> enable it, or something else is going on, but VO >>> never really says one way or the other what its status is. >>> As I posted earlier, I'm not necessarily saying I regret updating right >>> away, but there is that little part of my brain >>> that's yelling "I told you you should have waited." LOL! >>> Anyway, it's a learning adventure, that's for sure! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shen >>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:37 PM >>> To: macvisionaries >>> Subject: Wow, what's up with Lion! >>> >>> OK, here are just a few of my impressions. Most of them come from the >>> way I use Mac, so a lot of them are personalized and most habitual. So >>> I am sure there is room for improvements in both Lion and my habits. >>> >>> First, has anyone noticed that VoiceOver no longer speaks the welcome >>> message? Ever? After installing Lion, I have yet to hear VoiceOver >>> speak the welcome message once. And this is after restarting, or >>> turning off then on the Mac at least a dozen times. I know this >>> because half the time, after logging in, VoiceOver is dead silent, it >>> doesn't say anything. The other h50 percent of the time, it says >>> "com.apple.dock.extras". >>> So what is "com.apple.dock.extras"? >>> Why can't the focus go to the desktop like Snow Leopard used to? OK, >>> so we can press VO-Shift-D, or command-Tab to go to the desktop. But >>> why do that when Snow Leopard used to put you right there after >>> logging in? This seems like such a weird behavior. >>> >>> My second observation is that the entire system seems to run a little >>> slower than it used to. I don't know if this is because I updated Snow >>> Leopard to Lion. Will my system run more smoothly if I installed Lion >>> from a clean install? >>> This is not Windows, this is Mac. Does it really make that much of a >>> difference? If so, why would Apple make us update instead of providing >>> a dvd for clean installs? If I were a betting man, I'd bet that even >>> on a clean install, my system would run more or less about the same. >>> The other major issue is Mail. >>> For example, Mail has turned into a waiting game instead of the snappy >>> fast response it used to be. Now when I press up or down arrow keys to >>> scroll through the message list, every few times, Mail would say "Mail >>> busy" and take about 2 seconds before reading me the email message. >>> This has never happened in Snow Leopard. >>> >>> The other issue I have is the download window in Safari. In Snow >>> Leopard, it used to be that when you click on a link to download >>> something, a second window pops up and you can immediately see what >>> you are downloading. Now with Lion, you have to move from the html >>> content, move to the toolbar, interact with it, find the download >>> button, click it, then you can see the downoad progress. >>> This may be better for a visual user. But for a VoiceOver user, it has >>> gone from a window that pops up automatically, to forcing the user to >>> navigate to find out the info. >>> I'm starting to see a trend that things may be accessible, but not >>> necessarily user friendly. Apple may be good at making sure things are >>> accessible with VoiceOver, but not necessarily user friendly. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Shen >>> goalb...@gmail.com >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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