Hi Daniel, My boot time is noticeably longer. Donna
On Jul 21, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > Hi, > > Actually, the boot time isn't any longer than it was in SL, it's just that > VoiceOver doesn't always tell you when things are happening, due to that > apple.com whatever thinggie. I had a sighted person test the boot times for > both OSes, as well as completely blowing away my current Lion install and > installing clean. The boot time for a clean install is exactly the same. > As far as the trackpad commander gesture, you have to make sure you're > rotating your fingers exactly clockwise to turn it on and counter-clockwise > to turn it off. VO will always tell you the status of the commander. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:02 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Wow, what's up with Lion! > > Hi! I completely agree with your observations regarding VO at startup. The > boot time is at least 10 seconds longer now, and VO has yet to say its > welcome message. Furthermore, that "com.apple.dock.extras" thing is already > driving me bananas! I might be brave and attempt a clean install once a > podcast is posted to give detailed instructions, but like you, I wonder if > it would make any difference. I don't have any of the issues you're > describing with mail, and haven't tried to play with saphari yet, but this > start-up stuff really needs to get figured out. > I've also discovered that VO doesn't tell me whether or not trackpad > commander is on. I don't use it much, but like to practice from time to > time, and either I'm not doing the jesture right to enable it, or something > else is going on, but VO never really says one way or the other what its > status is. > As I posted earlier, I'm not necessarily saying I regret updating right > away, but there is that little part of my brain that's yelling "I told you > you should have waited." LOL! > Anyway, it's a learning adventure, that's for sure! > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shen > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:37 PM > To: macvisionaries > Subject: Wow, what's up with Lion! > > OK, here are just a few of my impressions. Most of them come from the way I > use Mac, so a lot of them are personalized and most habitual. So I am sure > there is room for improvements in both Lion and my habits. > > First, has anyone noticed that VoiceOver no longer speaks the welcome > message? Ever? After installing Lion, I have yet to hear VoiceOver speak the > welcome message once. And this is after restarting, or turning off then on > the Mac at least a dozen times. I know this because half the time, after > logging in, VoiceOver is dead silent, it doesn't say anything. The other h50 > percent of the time, it says "com.apple.dock.extras". > So what is "com.apple.dock.extras"? > Why can't the focus go to the desktop like Snow Leopard used to? OK, so we > can press VO-Shift-D, or command-Tab to go to the desktop. But why do that > when Snow Leopard used to put you right there after logging in? This seems > like such a weird behavior. > > My second observation is that the entire system seems to run a little slower > than it used to. I don't know if this is because I updated Snow Leopard to > Lion. Will my system run more smoothly if I installed Lion from a clean > install? > This is not Windows, this is Mac. Does it really make that much of a > difference? If so, why would Apple make us update instead of providing a dvd > for clean installs? If I were a betting man, I'd bet that even on a clean > install, my system would run more or less about the same. > The other major issue is Mail. > For example, Mail has turned into a waiting game instead of the snappy fast > response it used to be. Now when I press up or down arrow keys to scroll > through the message list, every few times, Mail would say "Mail busy" and > take about 2 seconds before reading me the email message. > This has never happened in Snow Leopard. > > The other issue I have is the download window in Safari. In Snow Leopard, it > used to be that when you click on a link to download something, a second > window pops up and you can immediately see what you are downloading. Now > with Lion, you have to move from the html content, move to the toolbar, > interact with it, find the download button, click it, then you can see the > downoad progress. > This may be better for a visual user. But for a VoiceOver user, it has gone > from a window that pops up automatically, to forcing the user to navigate to > find out the info. > I'm starting to see a trend that things may be accessible, but not > necessarily user friendly. Apple may be good at making sure things are > accessible with VoiceOver, but not necessarily user friendly. > > > > > > > > -- > Shen > goalb...@gmail.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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