An iPhone?  OCR is hardly its strong suit.  lol.  Most people I know, including 
myself, get so so results at best using OCR apps for the iPhone.

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On May 21, 2011, at 3:06 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi Chris:
> Well, as long as people keep settling for poor scan times, or giving moneys 
> to companies that aren't interested in the potential market of blind Mac 
> users, I don't hold a lot of hope.  I don't have the patience to wait for 
> vuescan to do it's thing and then send over to baby when I can get a 19 
> second reading with an iPhone or Openbook with a PC.
> So, perhaps I'm off to get an iPhone 4.:)
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Christopher Peppel wrote:
> 
>> Hi again Carolyn,
>> 
>> Unfortunately, it does seem that we as Mac users sometimes get short shrift. 
>>  Maybe we can somehow get this situation resolved somehow.  It appears that 
>> there are more and more blind people going to the Mac, so it would seem that 
>> there would be enough people out there who would need a non-internet 
>> scanning program.  Just my thoughts.
>> 
>> Chris
>> On May 21, 2011, at 11:59 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chris:
>>> Somehow, we need to find enough of people who don't want to settle for the 
>>> less that is available for the Mac and scanning.  I did approach Freedom 
>>> science fiction about the possibility of developing a Mac-friendly 
>>> openbook.  The response was simply tha they weren't aware of any plans to 
>>> do so.  So, then the dilemma for me is, I have to update another family 
>>> members JAWS screen-reader because of the inavailability of a reasonably 
>>> quick and secure means of scanning.  FS wins another round.:)
>>> 
>>> I'm really thinking that the scanning apps for iDevices should be capable 
>>> of being adapted to the Mac, though I surely don't know this.
>>> Anyway, we'll keep hoping.
>>> Carolyn
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2011, at 1:11 AM, Christopher Peppel wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Carolyn,
>>>> 
>>>> I bought Abbyfinereader $99.00 figuring that it would be an inexpensive 
>>>> way to scan.  It would not work with my scanner which is a Canoscan lide 
>>>> 90.  When Docuscan came along, I deleted the other one and just considered 
>>>> it a bad job.  The problem is that we are given outdated scan engines so 
>>>> as I see it, there is nothing really out there for us.  I can understand 
>>>> people's concerns about having personal stuff out on the internet and 
>>>> paying $299.00 but I would rather do that then waste money on a program 
>>>> that doesn't work.  
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> On May 21, 2011, at 12:57 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If I remember correctly, people often used a different program to scan 
>>>>> because Abbyy is not good at making friends with a lot of scanners.  So, 
>>>>> people find it easier to scan with iPhoto or Vuescan and use baby for 
>>>>> it's superior OCR and multi-lingual capabilities.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Carolyn
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Honestly Jenny, I don't really remember what my issue was with ABBYY 
>>>>>> Fine Reader.  I was under the impression you needed to scan with Vuscan, 
>>>>>> and then open the file in ABBYY Fine Reader to do the OCR on it.  Is 
>>>>>> this correct?
>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, Abby Fine Reader is $99.  Hmmm, what type of problem were you 
>>>>>>> having with it?  I am assuming you already have the correct driver and 
>>>>>>> software installed for your scanner?  And you're right, it would be 
>>>>>>> ideal to have access to a program that would allow you to scan, 
>>>>>>> recognize and read all in one.  Unfortunately, other than Docuscan, I 
>>>>>>> don't know of any such program just yet.  I have been rather impressed 
>>>>>>> with the scan quality of Abby so far though. :-) 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jenny Wood
>>>>>>> Phone:  (972) 989-3894
>>>>>>> Email:  kc5...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Actually, I didn't think it took terribly long to process, but I just 
>>>>>>>> don't know if I want to drop $299 on it right now.  I just wish there 
>>>>>>>> was another solution on the Mac that didn't require using to 
>>>>>>>> applications to get a scanned document, as is the case with needing to 
>>>>>>>> use Vuscan and then ABBYY Fine Reader.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Isn't ABBYY Fine Reader $99?  I wasn't successful getting it to work 
>>>>>>>> during the trial period, but I kind of put it asside and forgot about 
>>>>>>>> it.  Now, I'm loathe to put down $99 for it, and then find out I still 
>>>>>>>> can't get it to work.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My desktop PC I was using to scan with an old Dell all-in-one and 
>>>>>>>> ABBYY Fine Reader version 5 has just died, and I don't have a scanning 
>>>>>>>> solution at all at the moment.  I do have a sighted husband, so it is 
>>>>>>>> not terribly urgent.  Guess I"m just biding my time here.  Maybe 
>>>>>>>> Serotech will put Docuscan on sale?  :)
>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2011, at 10:58 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think Docuscan works rather well with a flatbed 
>>>>>>>>> scanner.  My only hangup with it is the "cloud-only issue and the 
>>>>>>>>> time in which it takes to process a single page.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jenny Wood
>>>>>>>>> Phone:        (972) 989-3894
>>>>>>>>> Email:        kc5...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:       kc5gni
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2011, at 8:50 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ricardo:
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip.  I didn't realize it would work with a scanner.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The cloud issue is valid but, you don't need a camera.  My photo 
>>>>>>>>>>> smart all in one worked just fine.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> hth
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>>>>>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2011, at 7:34 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't yet.  I'm a lousy shot with a camera, and I thought that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> one needed to use one.:)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> And then there's the issue of the cloud for doing the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> interpreting.  I think it's easy enough for my stuff to get 
>>>>>>>>>>>> compromised without sending mail to the cloud for perusal.:)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carolyn
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried docuscan?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2011, at 12:20 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jenny:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a canon mp160, and an hp photosmart d10.  My canon scans 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far faster than the HP, which surprised me. That was using 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Openbook.  Working with Vuescan was very slow with both scanners 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used up my trial of Abbyy before I could do much with it.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, I hear it's pretty persnickety about which  scanners it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will work with.  I'm looking for scan times under 30 seconds, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I sure didn't have that with vuescan.'It's been 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disappointing to have to go back to that other OS for serious 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bouts of scanning.:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, so far, that's the most efficient way to get things done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carolyn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 18, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carolyn,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just out of curiosity, what type of scanner do you have?  I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think you may have told me before, but I think I need a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refresher. :-)  I will say that as a follow-up to our docuscan 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion, I really started digging further into scanning 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibilities for my mac.  I tried a program called Exactscan 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pro, which was sort of okay, but I was disappointed with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality of the recognition.  However, I also downloaded a trial 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of Abby Fine Reader, and I actually wound up purchasing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it within the first couple of days.  I am very impressed with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the recognition, and it works very well with my scanner and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanner software.  My only complaint at all about this program, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is simply the fact I have to launch the scanner software 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately to begin the scanning process, and that Abby asks 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to save the file before reviewing it.  Having said that, it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really comes down to an extra button push or two difference 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from what I might get out of K1000.  I have used it intensely 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since having bought it.  I intend to continue using it even 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once I get Fusion up and running.  I will use K1000 primarily 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for larger scanning projects, since it will allow me to scan 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeatedly without necessarily having to save anything.  As far 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as going through the daily mail or random papers around the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> house, Abby does the job perfectly.    
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny Wood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone:  (972) 989-3894
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email:  kc5...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 18, 2011, at 1:52 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi John:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's one reason I haven't made that little investment.  If 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to buy that app, I don't want to have to jump 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through lots of hoops to use it.  I have to say this is one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> area where accessibility really could use a proberveal kick in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the pants--Ok, upgrade.:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely hate having to tell people I need to use the PC 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to scan most conveniently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your input.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carolyn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 18, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Jon Cohn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have done this with TIFF and PostScript files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even though I got a copy of Abby (old version) with my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanner, the new Abby does not recognise my Epson Perfection 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanner.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 18, 2011, at 1:21 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm debating about purchasing Abbyy for my Mac to access 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's ocr capabilities.  I am wondering from someone who uses 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it whether I can upload an image to it from, for example, an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email attachment and have it convert to text.  TIA for any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carolyn
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