Hi Chris:
Well, as long as people keep settling for poor scan times, or giving moneys to 
companies that aren't interested in the potential market of blind Mac users, I 
don't hold a lot of hope.  I don't have the patience to wait for vuescan to do 
it's thing and then send over to baby when I can get a 19 second reading with 
an iPhone or Openbook with a PC.
So, perhaps I'm off to get an iPhone 4.:)


On May 21, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Christopher Peppel wrote:

> Hi again Carolyn,
> 
> Unfortunately, it does seem that we as Mac users sometimes get short shrift.  
> Maybe we can somehow get this situation resolved somehow.  It appears that 
> there are more and more blind people going to the Mac, so it would seem that 
> there would be enough people out there who would need a non-internet scanning 
> program.  Just my thoughts.
> 
> Chris
> On May 21, 2011, at 11:59 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chris:
>> Somehow, we need to find enough of people who don't want to settle for the 
>> less that is available for the Mac and scanning.  I did approach Freedom 
>> science fiction about the possibility of developing a Mac-friendly openbook. 
>>  The response was simply tha they weren't aware of any plans to do so.  So, 
>> then the dilemma for me is, I have to update another family members JAWS 
>> screen-reader because of the inavailability of a reasonably quick and secure 
>> means of scanning.  FS wins another round.:)
>> 
>> I'm really thinking that the scanning apps for iDevices should be capable of 
>> being adapted to the Mac, though I surely don't know this.
>> Anyway, we'll keep hoping.
>> Carolyn
>> 
>> On May 21, 2011, at 1:11 AM, Christopher Peppel wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Carolyn,
>>> 
>>> I bought Abbyfinereader $99.00 figuring that it would be an inexpensive way 
>>> to scan.  It would not work with my scanner which is a Canoscan lide 90.  
>>> When Docuscan came along, I deleted the other one and just considered it a 
>>> bad job.  The problem is that we are given outdated scan engines so as I 
>>> see it, there is nothing really out there for us.  I can understand 
>>> people's concerns about having personal stuff out on the internet and 
>>> paying $299.00 but I would rather do that then waste money on a program 
>>> that doesn't work.  
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> On May 21, 2011, at 12:57 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If I remember correctly, people often used a different program to scan 
>>>> because Abbyy is not good at making friends with a lot of scanners.  So, 
>>>> people find it easier to scan with iPhoto or Vuescan and use baby for it's 
>>>> superior OCR and multi-lingual capabilities.
>>>> 
>>>> Carolyn
>>>> 
>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Honestly Jenny, I don't really remember what my issue was with ABBYY Fine 
>>>>> Reader.  I was under the impression you needed to scan with Vuscan, and 
>>>>> then open the file in ABBYY Fine Reader to do the OCR on it.  Is this 
>>>>> correct?
>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, Abby Fine Reader is $99.  Hmmm, what type of problem were you 
>>>>>> having with it?  I am assuming you already have the correct driver and 
>>>>>> software installed for your scanner?  And you're right, it would be 
>>>>>> ideal to have access to a program that would allow you to scan, 
>>>>>> recognize and read all in one.  Unfortunately, other than Docuscan, I 
>>>>>> don't know of any such program just yet.  I have been rather impressed 
>>>>>> with the scan quality of Abby so far though. :-) 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jenny Wood
>>>>>> Phone:   (972) 989-3894
>>>>>> Email:   kc5...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:  kc5gni
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Actually, I didn't think it took terribly long to process, but I just 
>>>>>>> don't know if I want to drop $299 on it right now.  I just wish there 
>>>>>>> was another solution on the Mac that didn't require using to 
>>>>>>> applications to get a scanned document, as is the case with needing to 
>>>>>>> use Vuscan and then ABBYY Fine Reader.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Isn't ABBYY Fine Reader $99?  I wasn't successful getting it to work 
>>>>>>> during the trial period, but I kind of put it asside and forgot about 
>>>>>>> it.  Now, I'm loathe to put down $99 for it, and then find out I still 
>>>>>>> can't get it to work.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My desktop PC I was using to scan with an old Dell all-in-one and ABBYY 
>>>>>>> Fine Reader version 5 has just died, and I don't have a scanning 
>>>>>>> solution at all at the moment.  I do have a sighted husband, so it is 
>>>>>>> not terribly urgent.  Guess I"m just biding my time here.  Maybe 
>>>>>>> Serotech will put Docuscan on sale?  :)
>>>>>>> On May 19, 2011, at 10:58 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Personally, I think Docuscan works rather well with a flatbed scanner. 
>>>>>>>>  My only hangup with it is the "cloud-only issue and the time in which 
>>>>>>>> it takes to process a single page.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>> Jenny Wood
>>>>>>>> Phone: (972) 989-3894
>>>>>>>> Email: kc5...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:        kc5gni
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2011, at 8:50 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ricardo:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip.  I didn't realize it would work with a scanner.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The cloud issue is valid but, you don't need a camera.  My photo 
>>>>>>>>>> smart all in one worked just fine.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> hth
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>>>>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2011, at 7:34 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't yet.  I'm a lousy shot with a camera, and I thought that 
>>>>>>>>>>> one needed to use one.:)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And then there's the issue of the cloud for doing the interpreting. 
>>>>>>>>>>>  I think it's easy enough for my stuff to get compromised without 
>>>>>>>>>>> sending mail to the cloud for perusal.:)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Carolyn
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried docuscan?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2011, at 12:20 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jenny:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a canon mp160, and an hp photosmart d10.  My canon scans 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> far faster than the HP, which surprised me. That was using 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Openbook.  Working with Vuescan was very slow with both scanners 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used up my trial of Abbyy before I could do much with it.  But, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hear it's pretty persnickety about which  scanners it will work 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with.  I'm looking for scan times under 30 seconds, and I sure 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't have that with vuescan.'It's been disappointing to have to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> go back to that other OS for serious bouts of scanning.:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, so far, that's the most efficient way to get things done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carolyn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 18, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carolyn,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just out of curiosity, what type of scanner do you have?  I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think you may have told me before, but I think I need a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refresher. :-)  I will say that as a follow-up to our docuscan 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion, I really started digging further into scanning 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibilities for my mac.  I tried a program called Exactscan 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pro, which was sort of okay, but I was disappointed with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality of the recognition.  However, I also downloaded a trial 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of Abby Fine Reader, and I actually wound up purchasing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it within the first couple of days.  I am very impressed with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the recognition, and it works very well with my scanner and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanner software.  My only complaint at all about this program, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is simply the fact I have to launch the scanner software 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately to begin the scanning process, and that Abby asks you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to save the file before reviewing it.  Having said that, it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really comes down to an extra button push or two difference from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I might get out of K1000.  I have used it intensely since 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having bought it.  I intend to continue using it even once I get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fusion up and running.  I will use K1000 primarily for larger 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanning projects, since it will allow me to scan repeatedly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without necessarily having to save anything.  As far as going 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through the daily mail or random papers around the house, Abby 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does the job perfectly.    
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny Wood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone:   (972) 989-3894
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email:   kc5...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:  kc5gni
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 18, 2011, at 1:52 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi John:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's one reason I haven't made that little investment.  If 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to buy that app, I don't want to have to jump through 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots of hoops to use it.  I have to say this is one area where 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessibility really could use a proberveal kick in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pants--Ok, upgrade.:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely hate having to tell people I need to use the PC to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scan most conveniently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your input.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carolyn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 18, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Jon Cohn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have done this with TIFF and PostScript files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even though I got a copy of Abby (old version) with my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanner, the new Abby does not recognise my Epson Perfection 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanner.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 18, 2011, at 1:21 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm debating about purchasing Abbyy for my Mac to access it's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ocr capabilities.  I am wondering from someone who uses it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether I can upload an image to it from, for example, an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email attachment and have it convert to text.  TIA for any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carolyn
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