Scott, great points and I follow you now.

In the end it's probably because Apple can sell service on your device.:)

You have some strong points.

On Jan 21, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> You miss the point or at least the point I was making. The average (excludes 
> electronics technicians) have little need to be mucking about inside the 
> phone, iPod, etc. You are correct that Apple is protecting its bottom line 
> and rightfully so. If people started messing around with their phones and 
> tried installing their own batteries etc. and break the phone, guess who gets 
> blamed and is expected to fix it. Well if you guessed Apple, then you would 
> be correct. There are those who can disassemble such devices and reassemble 
> it without damaging the device, but this is a small subset of people. I also 
> again wonder to what extent one can modify the hardware without running into 
> any legal issues. I have not explored this, but most software licenses for 
> example do not allow for you to reverse engineer the software and this may be 
> true with some hardware and this could be another reason. Either way, I hope 
> that clarifies why I believe Apple does not want people opening their 
> devices. You may disagree, but I bet statistics would reveal that more people 
> toss their electronic devices when they quit working then actually take them 
> in for repair.
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 21, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>>      I have read the previous messages on this topic, I would like to
>> respectfully object.  I would like to begin by saying that I feel the topic
>> is certainly news worthy.  Furthermore I am quite disturbed at how readily
>> folks on this list are willing to just bow to the "omnipotent Corporation
>> looking out for our well being."  I feel that Apple is only protecting its
>> bottom line and that is where it begins and ends.  Fifty years ago the Sears
>> catalog included schematics so that one could self troubleshoot issues whit
>> products that were sold in their catalog.  Today we have covers to cover
>> covers, layering the electronics and mechanical parts of our cars and
>> hundreds of other devices that we use every day.  As an American I love our
>> traditional spirit of adventure and personal independence to take a product
>> designed or meant for one purpose and transform it into something completely
>> beyond what it was designed for.  In pushing this envelope we have been a
>> market leader and produced some of the sharpest minds in our century.  I
>> know for a fact that a few funky shaped screws are not going to stop the
>> people that I am describing.  I am objecting with the status quo, and the
>> consensus of the people on this list.  Before I went blind I was a Heavy
>> equipment Mechanic.  Whenever I would hear about situations like the one
>> outlined I would be frustrated.  We have an amazing amount of competent
>> electronic specialists who would not bat an eye at removing the back of
>> their iPhone to do a minor repair.  I am a ham radio operator and that
>> spirit is certainly alive and flourishing.  The amount of money that folks
>> with these skills are saving by doing their own repairs, are nothing short
>> of amazing.  When I owned a computer store and we would frequently have
>> computers come in where their capacitors had dried out and exploded.  This
>> action is so dramatic, that when my friend and business partner who happened
>> to be one of these skilled electronic technicians that you are saying have
>> no business tinkering around in a iphone, would replace the capacitors.  Our
>> customers would think that he had performed nothing short of a miracle.
>> Along those same lines I had dropped my BN PK and the cards had become
>> dislodged.  He simply reseated them and I went on my way.  The company had
>> just charged me 250.00 for new batteries.  He researched it in four minutes
>> and could have replaced them for me for 18.00.  How much do you think that
>> Humanware would have charged for reseating my cards, not to mention the
>> time.  Please do not tell me that this is not news worthy, because it
>> certainly is.
>> Sincerely,
>> Scott      
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of heather kd5cbl
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:04 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the
>> hardware they paid for.
>> 
>> Well, that would be like watching tim the tool man tailor, right!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the 
>> hardware they paid for.
>> 
>> 
>> Lol,
>> 
>> I think this is quite funny.  Really, unless your the like 1% of iPhone 
>> owners who want to take your device apart, is this even news worthy?
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Gee, have you considered that maybe Apple doesn't want you mucking about 
>>> in there and then trying to claim the device has some sort of flaw, which 
>>> means they would have to replace or repair it? There is a reason why they 
>>> don't want the average person messing with the internals. Now once out of 
>>> warranty, I think you should be able to do whatever you want since if you 
>>> break it you get to keep the pieces or pay APple to put it back together.
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is this another method apple i using to control repairs and keep 
>>>> consumers out? read more:
>>>> 
>>>> http://bit.ly/gpoTpd
>>>> 
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