Hello Ricardo,
I would like to respectfully disagree with your assertion that
things "broke down more frequently, back then." Today we have engineered
obsolescence, and things are designed to breakdown. I can provide a laundry
list to this fact, however one fact still remains, I have a fifty year old
refrigerator that is rock solid and my brother-in-law is still running an
old 60 year old Oliver tractor for hulling wood. Things back then were
accessible for repair though, and the sense of mysticism was not
intentionally bestowed on things.
Sincerely,
Scott
Scott
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the
hardware they paid for.
Ok.
You would fall into that very small minority group in which such information
is news worthy. You said yourself, some funky screws won't stop the
adventurous type. I think what Apple did was a waste of time and money.
And at the end of the day, it comes off a little petty. But the fact still
remains. Its their products, and they can do whatever they want with it..
Where does it say, you have to provide step by step instructions on how to
dismantle your products. I think the sears catalog is a bit of a flawed
argument. They provided the schematics because things broke down a hell of
a lot more 50 years ago than they do now. Consumers have grown to expect a
higher level of reliability from their devices. In those 50 years, we have
gone from from the mechanical, were if one was patient enough, could watch
moving parts and figure out what goes where. These products were also a lot
more tolerant to the novice hand. Not so much in the digital age.
Ricardo Walker
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On Jan 21, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> I have read the previous messages on this topic, I would like to
> respectfully object. I would like to begin by saying that I feel the
topic
> is certainly news worthy. Furthermore I am quite disturbed at how readily
> folks on this list are willing to just bow to the "omnipotent Corporation
> looking out for our well being." I feel that Apple is only protecting its
> bottom line and that is where it begins and ends. Fifty years ago the
Sears
> catalog included schematics so that one could self troubleshoot issues
whit
> products that were sold in their catalog. Today we have covers to cover
> covers, layering the electronics and mechanical parts of our cars and
> hundreds of other devices that we use every day. As an American I love
our
> traditional spirit of adventure and personal independence to take a
product
> designed or meant for one purpose and transform it into something
completely
> beyond what it was designed for. In pushing this envelope we have been a
> market leader and produced some of the sharpest minds in our century. I
> know for a fact that a few funky shaped screws are not going to stop the
> people that I am describing. I am objecting with the status quo, and the
> consensus of the people on this list. Before I went blind I was a Heavy
> equipment Mechanic. Whenever I would hear about situations like the one
> outlined I would be frustrated. We have an amazing amount of competent
> electronic specialists who would not bat an eye at removing the back of
> their iPhone to do a minor repair. I am a ham radio operator and that
> spirit is certainly alive and flourishing. The amount of money that folks
> with these skills are saving by doing their own repairs, are nothing short
> of amazing. When I owned a computer store and we would frequently have
> computers come in where their capacitors had dried out and exploded. This
> action is so dramatic, that when my friend and business partner who
happened
> to be one of these skilled electronic technicians that you are saying have
> no business tinkering around in a iphone, would replace the capacitors.
Our
> customers would think that he had performed nothing short of a miracle.
> Along those same lines I had dropped my BN PK and the cards had become
> dislodged. He simply reseated them and I went on my way. The company had
> just charged me 250.00 for new batteries. He researched it in four
minutes
> and could have replaced them for me for 18.00. How much do you think that
> Humanware would have charged for reseating my cards, not to mention the
> time. Please do not tell me that this is not news worthy, because it
> certainly is.
> Sincerely,
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of heather kd5cbl
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:04 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the
> hardware they paid for.
>
> Well, that would be like watching tim the tool man tailor, right!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the
> hardware they paid for.
>
>
> Lol,
>
> I think this is quite funny. Really, unless your the like 1% of iPhone
> owners who want to take your device apart, is this even news worthy?
>
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>> Gee, have you considered that maybe Apple doesn't want you mucking about
>> in there and then trying to claim the device has some sort of flaw, which
>> means they would have to replace or repair it? There is a reason why they
>> don't want the average person messing with the internals. Now once out of
>> warranty, I think you should be able to do whatever you want since if you
>> break it you get to keep the pieces or pay APple to put it back together.
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>
>>> Is this another method apple i using to control repairs and keep
>>> consumers out? read more:
>>>
>>> http://bit.ly/gpoTpd
>>>
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