Hi Chris and others,
I even use Quick Nav in amadeus Pro but I do turn it off and on a lot.
I would rather use one hand if possible rather then both hands with one holding
down VO keys and the other doing all the work.
I'm still hoping for the day I can keep my fingers completely on the home row
and use the Caps lock as VO. I remember when learning to use Voice Over how
excited I was to start using QN. I love the way one hand can do much of the
navigating and my other hand can be on the home row or other position
anticipating the next need.
I hope Voice Over is still going to come up with more innovations. In the
meantime QN speeds up my work.
Best
Eric Caron
On Aug 24, 2010, at 5:53 PM
, Chris Snyder wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> I use QN all the time except when I am editing in Amadeus Pro. I love its
> functionality, and convenience. In my view, it is one of the features that
> makes Voiceover a better screen reader than any of the windows systems.
>
> Friendly,
> Chris
>
> On Aug 23, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I am certainly in the minority here. I love quick nav and find it
>> helps me move around quickly. I have found I can use VO keys without
>> turning quick nav off to increase functionality. I tend to use many VO
>> features for example I use track pad gestures, keyboard defined commands
>> with the right option key, quick nav and standard VO commands. They all
>> help in different ways. It is great to have so many options. My only
>> frustration is that the VO keys are two keys in a tricky location. I'd love
>> to be able to assign the caps lock key to be the VO keys!
>>
>> I'd love to see more tips on using quick nav.
>>
>> eric Caron
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>
>>> I don't use QN hardly if at all. I don't rally find it quick at all but
>>> very combersum on my finders. lol!
>>>
>>> S
>>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>>>
>>>> Erik:
>>>> Actually you've gotten better luck with quick-nav than I have. I only
>>>> tend to use it when my arrows won't accomplish something in a message. I
>>>> really wish I understood it's full effect on the behavior of arrows and
>>>> cursors.
>>>> Anyway, thanks for putting this out. It'll be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Carolyn Haas
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: erik burggraaf
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:55 AM
>>>> Subject: getting the most out of quicknav?
>>>>
>>>> Hi, I'm forcing myself to use quicknav today, just because. So, I've
>>>> done some googling and some reading and some playing, but I sense that I'm
>>>> not getting the most out of quicknav, because to be honest, it's somewhat
>>>> more convenient, but I'm not as blown away by the simplicity as I thought
>>>> I would be.
>>>>
>>>> So far, I've got left+right turn qn on or off.
>>>> down+right interact.
>>>> left+down stop interacting.
>>>> left+up and up+right, move around the router.
>>>> up+down perform the default action on an item in the voiceover curser.
>>>> Arrow keys on their own are used to navigate in the desired direction.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I'm thinking there must be more to this. For one thing, I'm finding
>>>> it counter-intuitive because I generally don't interact with things.
>>>>
>>>> For example, I would normally arrow up and down the messages table in mail
>>>> or the mailboxes table without interacting. This will read me the entire
>>>> row of information and I usually find that to be what I want to happen.
>>>> If I sit on the messages table with qn and press the down arrow, of course
>>>> it takes me to the scroll bars and things, and in order to read the
>>>> messages table, I have to either interact with it, or turn qn off.
>>>>
>>>> There are ways I can get around this in some tables, for example, if I
>>>> know what I want I can press the first letter or first few letters. That
>>>> will work some of the time, but in the messages table of mail, I want to
>>>> scan them all, not usually specific ones, so it falls over.
>>>>
>>>> So, how do people get along with this all the time? or are we all sitting
>>>> here turning qn on and off all the time depending on the situation? Am I
>>>> missing any qn features?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Erik Burggraaf
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