I don't use QN hardly if at all. I don't rally find it quick at all but very 
combersum on my finders. lol!

S
On Aug 23, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> Erik:
> Actually you've gotten better luck with quick-nav than I have.  I only tend 
> to use it when my arrows won't accomplish something in a message.  I really 
> wish I understood it's full effect on the behavior of arrows and cursors. 
> Anyway, thanks for putting this out.  It'll be helpful.
>  
> Carolyn Haas
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: erik burggraaf
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:55 AM
> Subject: getting the most out of quicknav?
> 
> Hi,  I'm forcing myself to use quicknav today, just because.  So, I've done 
> some googling and some reading and some playing, but I sense that I'm not 
> getting the most out of quicknav, because to be honest, it's somewhat more 
> convenient, but I'm not as blown away by the simplicity as I thought I would 
> be.
> 
> So far, I've got left+right turn qn on or off.
> down+right interact.
> left+down stop interacting.
> left+up and up+right, move around the router.
> up+down perform the default action on an item in the voiceover curser.
> Arrow keys on their own are used to navigate in the desired direction.
> 
> Now, I'm thinking there must be more to this.  For one thing, I'm finding it 
> counter-intuitive because I generally don't interact with things.
> 
> For example, I would normally arrow up and down the messages table in mail or 
> the mailboxes table without interacting.  This will read me the entire row of 
> information and I usually find that to be what I want to happen.  If I sit on 
> the messages table with qn and press the down arrow, of course it takes me to 
> the scroll bars and things, and in order to read the messages table, I have 
> to either interact with it, or turn qn off.
> 
> There are ways I can get around this in some tables, for example, if I know 
> what I want I can press the first letter or first few letters.  That will 
> work some of the time, but in the messages table of mail, I want to scan them 
> all, not usually specific ones, so it falls over.
> 
> So, how do people get along with this all the time?  or are we all sitting 
> here turning qn on and off all the time depending on the situation?  Am I 
> missing any qn features?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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