Hi Eric, I use QN all the time except when I am editing in Amadeus Pro. I love its functionality, and convenience. In my view, it is one of the features that makes Voiceover a better screen reader than any of the windows systems.
Friendly, Chris On Aug 23, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi list, > > I am certainly in the minority here. I love quick nav and find it > helps me move around quickly. I have found I can use VO keys without turning > quick nav off to increase functionality. I tend to use many VO features for > example I use track pad gestures, keyboard defined commands with the right > option key, quick nav and standard VO commands. They all help in different > ways. It is great to have so many options. My only frustration is that the > VO keys are two keys in a tricky location. I'd love to be able to assign the > caps lock key to be the VO keys! > > I'd love to see more tips on using quick nav. > > eric Caron > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I don't use QN hardly if at all. I don't rally find it quick at all but very >> combersum on my finders. lol! >> >> S >> On Aug 23, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Carolyn wrote: >> >>> Erik: >>> Actually you've gotten better luck with quick-nav than I have. I only tend >>> to use it when my arrows won't accomplish something in a message. I really >>> wish I understood it's full effect on the behavior of arrows and cursors. >>> Anyway, thanks for putting this out. It'll be helpful. >>> >>> Carolyn Haas >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: erik burggraaf >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:55 AM >>> Subject: getting the most out of quicknav? >>> >>> Hi, I'm forcing myself to use quicknav today, just because. So, I've done >>> some googling and some reading and some playing, but I sense that I'm not >>> getting the most out of quicknav, because to be honest, it's somewhat more >>> convenient, but I'm not as blown away by the simplicity as I thought I >>> would be. >>> >>> So far, I've got left+right turn qn on or off. >>> down+right interact. >>> left+down stop interacting. >>> left+up and up+right, move around the router. >>> up+down perform the default action on an item in the voiceover curser. >>> Arrow keys on their own are used to navigate in the desired direction. >>> >>> Now, I'm thinking there must be more to this. For one thing, I'm finding >>> it counter-intuitive because I generally don't interact with things. >>> >>> For example, I would normally arrow up and down the messages table in mail >>> or the mailboxes table without interacting. This will read me the entire >>> row of information and I usually find that to be what I want to happen. If >>> I sit on the messages table with qn and press the down arrow, of course it >>> takes me to the scroll bars and things, and in order to read the messages >>> table, I have to either interact with it, or turn qn off. >>> >>> There are ways I can get around this in some tables, for example, if I know >>> what I want I can press the first letter or first few letters. That will >>> work some of the time, but in the messages table of mail, I want to scan >>> them all, not usually specific ones, so it falls over. >>> >>> So, how do people get along with this all the time? or are we all sitting >>> here turning qn on and off all the time depending on the situation? Am I >>> missing any qn features? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille >>> box. >>> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and >>> subscribe. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email >>> tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email >>> tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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