Erik:
Actually you've gotten better luck with quick-nav than I have.  I only tend to 
use it when my arrows won't accomplish something in a message.  I really wish I 
understood it's full effect on the behavior of arrows and cursors.  
Anyway, thanks for putting this out.  It'll be helpful.

Carolyn Haas
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: erik burggraaf 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:55 AM
  Subject: getting the most out of quicknav?


  Hi,  I'm forcing myself to use quicknav today, just because.  So, I've done 
some googling and some reading and some playing, but I sense that I'm not 
getting the most out of quicknav, because to be honest, it's somewhat more 
convenient, but I'm not as blown away by the simplicity as I thought I would be.

  So far, I've got left+right turn qn on or off.
  down+right interact.
  left+down stop interacting.
  left+up and up+right, move around the router.
  up+down perform the default action on an item in the voiceover curser.
  Arrow keys on their own are used to navigate in the desired direction.

  Now, I'm thinking there must be more to this.  For one thing, I'm finding it 
counter-intuitive because I generally don't interact with things.

  For example, I would normally arrow up and down the messages table in mail or 
the mailboxes table without interacting.  This will read me the entire row of 
information and I usually find that to be what I want to happen.  If I sit on 
the messages table with qn and press the down arrow, of course it takes me to 
the scroll bars and things, and in order to read the messages table, I have to 
either interact with it, or turn qn off.

  There are ways I can get around this in some tables, for example, if I know 
what I want I can press the first letter or first few letters.  That will work 
some of the time, but in the messages table of mail, I want to scan them all, 
not usually specific ones, so it falls over.

  So, how do people get along with this all the time?  or are we all sitting 
here turning qn on and off all the time depending on the situation?  Am I 
missing any qn features?

  Thanks,

  Erik Burggraaf
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