OO is that channel still up! I'll hav e to look and laugh. I need it today!

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On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Nancy Miracle wrote:

> The iPhone does not use ordinary glass.  The surfaces are a product that is 
> called 'gorilla glass' that is made by Corning.  The glass is probably 
> tougher than the steel.  For an example, look at the YouTube feature titled 
> 'will it blend' in which a 4 is put in a blender.  The glass is one of the 
> last pieces to go...
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jul 13, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Buddy Brannan <bu...@brannan.name> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Brian,
>> 
>> I'm told by an Apple guy that, while the iPhone is made of glass, it's not 
>> your ordinary garden variety glass, but the glass like the kind of glass in 
>> helicopter windshields. I don't think that will shatter with normal handling 
>> and dropping and things. 
>> --
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>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, I have an iPhone 4, am a left-handed person, and haven't had any 
>>> problems.
>>> 
>>> Of course, I'm using an extremely thin hard plastic slip-case to protect my 
>>> $700, mostly glass, phone, as just about anyone reasonable would that 
>>> doesn't have a bottomless bank account. Yes, it looks nice, all glass and 
>>> stainless steel. It isn't real durable that way. I'd like something else, 
>>> but I like what it can do more than I dislike how it is made. And, besides, 
>>> I can fix its construction issues with a case. It's kind of like, do what 
>>> you gotta do to make the tech work for you, or else chill out on Symbian or 
>>> Windows Mobile, where the accessible apps are few and those OSes are 
>>> dropping accessibility support in about a year. As a blind guy, I can do so 
>>> much more with my iPhone than I could with any of my Nokias, so I can 
>>> overlook a flaw, particularly if it doesn't affect me.
>>> 
>>> I know that, if you hold it just in the right way, without the case on, 
>>> that you can cause the signal strength to reduce. I could do that with my 
>>> Nokia E71, though, so don't know why it is such a big deal that it happens 
>>> on iPhone.
>>> 
>>> If you don't like the iPhone, then more power to what ever choice suits 
>>> you. If you like the idea of the iPhone, then, I suggest that you go and 
>>> try one out for yourself. Most places will let you do a 30 day return if 
>>> you're not satisfied. You might find out that the majorly hyped supposed 
>>> problems aren't a problem for you, either. Since I haven't seen stories 
>>> about people returning their iPhones in droves, I'd say that there are 
>>> about 2,000,000 people by now that agree with me.
>>> 
>>> Bryan
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon F
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:56 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: A warning about Digit-Eyes
>>> 
>>> Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to be 
>>> correcting The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when it's is 
>>> held in a left hand and the signal is lost.
>>> 
>>> When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more. 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes
>>> 
>>> Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other idevice. I 
>>> think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these devices thus far. I 
>>> personally would like to see some sort of haptic feedback so we can get a 
>>> tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple is working on this.
>>> Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback. 
>>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may eventually 
>>>> do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul 12, 2010, 
>>>> at
>>> 2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is 
>>>>> limited
>>> on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doug
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey Doug,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We are probably straying a bit off topic for the list, but to answer
>>> your question, I really do not know. It may be for capturing information 
>>> about a specific product, you would have to get pretty close. The distances 
>>> you refer too is more useful for warehouses, dockyards, and such. I am not 
>>> sure if the ability to read is based on the scanner or the RFID tag itself.
>>> So, I think you can pretty much figure my knowledge is quite limited, other 
>>> than what I read. I do not know when Apple might put these readers in the 
>>> phone, but I thought it was to be included in version 4, but that I believe 
>>> did not happen yet.
>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's interesting, RFID would be much better for identifying 
>>>>>>> products
>>> because you would not have to point a device at the product in question to 
>>> identify it. Just get a reader in the general direztion of the of the 
>>> product and we should be able to identify it. As I understand it, the range 
>>> of RFID is quite large, something in the range of 30 feet. How do we 
>>> determine a product when we have a number of products in one area, a covert 
>>> full of cans and bottles, each presenting a signal that has a 30 foot 
>>> radius? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2010-07-11, at 9:33 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I do not know how many products have them now, but I suspect more 
>>>>>>>> than
>>> we know. For example, I recently learned that the recycle bins our county 
>>> provides us has a RFID chip imbedded in them. Apparently the data collected 
>>> from the chips let's the county know how often we put the bins out. RFID 
>>> chips are being used more now because of the speed and ability to collect 
>>> data on products being shipped and received, etc.
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