but it is still a goof idea to get a case. It helps distungish yoru iphone from someone elses. lol!
S On Jul 13, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hey Brian, > > I'm told by an Apple guy that, while the iPhone is made of glass, it's not > your ordinary garden variety glass, but the glass like the kind of glass in > helicopter windshields. I don't think that will shatter with normal handling > and dropping and things. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> Well, I have an iPhone 4, am a left-handed person, and haven't had any >> problems. >> >> Of course, I'm using an extremely thin hard plastic slip-case to protect my >> $700, mostly glass, phone, as just about anyone reasonable would that >> doesn't have a bottomless bank account. Yes, it looks nice, all glass and >> stainless steel. It isn't real durable that way. I'd like something else, >> but I like what it can do more than I dislike how it is made. And, besides, >> I can fix its construction issues with a case. It's kind of like, do what >> you gotta do to make the tech work for you, or else chill out on Symbian or >> Windows Mobile, where the accessible apps are few and those OSes are >> dropping accessibility support in about a year. As a blind guy, I can do so >> much more with my iPhone than I could with any of my Nokias, so I can >> overlook a flaw, particularly if it doesn't affect me. >> >> I know that, if you hold it just in the right way, without the case on, that >> you can cause the signal strength to reduce. I could do that with my Nokia >> E71, though, so don't know why it is such a big deal that it happens on >> iPhone. >> >> If you don't like the iPhone, then more power to what ever choice suits you. >> If you like the idea of the iPhone, then, I suggest that you go and try one >> out for yourself. Most places will let you do a 30 day return if you're not >> satisfied. You might find out that the majorly hyped supposed problems >> aren't a problem for you, either. Since I haven't seen stories about people >> returning their iPhones in droves, I'd say that there are about 2,000,000 >> people by now that agree with me. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon F >> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:56 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: A warning about Digit-Eyes >> >> Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to be >> correcting The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when it's is >> held in a left hand and the signal is lost. >> >> When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor >> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes >> >> Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other idevice. I >> think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these devices thus far. I >> personally would like to see some sort of haptic feedback so we can get a >> tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple is working on this. >> Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback. >> >> Doug >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may eventually >>> do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul 12, 2010, >>> at >> 2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: >>> >>>> No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is >>>> limited >> on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used. >>>> >>>> Doug >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey Doug, >>>>> >>>>> We are probably straying a bit off topic for the list, but to answer >> your question, I really do not know. It may be for capturing information >> about a specific product, you would have to get pretty close. The distances >> you refer too is more useful for warehouses, dockyards, and such. I am not >> sure if the ability to read is based on the scanner or the RFID tag itself. >> So, I think you can pretty much figure my knowledge is quite limited, other >> than what I read. I do not know when Apple might put these readers in the >> phone, but I thought it was to be included in version 4, but that I believe >> did not happen yet. >>>>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's interesting, RFID would be much better for identifying >>>>>> products >> because you would not have to point a device at the product in question to >> identify it. Just get a reader in the general direztion of the of the >> product and we should be able to identify it. As I understand it, the range >> of RFID is quite large, something in the range of 30 feet. How do we >> determine a product when we have a number of products in one area, a covert >> full of cans and bottles, each presenting a signal that has a 30 foot >> radius? >>>>>> >>>>>> Doug >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2010-07-11, at 9:33 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Doug, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do not know how many products have them now, but I suspect more >>>>>>> than >> we know. For example, I recently learned that the recycle bins our county >> provides us has a RFID chip imbedded in them. Apparently the data collected >> from the chips let's the county know how often we put the bins out. 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