I guess. The only problem with that potential set up is how would you know which function to have the triple click button turn on? Some users might want VO, while others might prefer zoom. Typically, apple store staff are great about their products, I have always had wonderful experiences with my local apple store, they are a real pleasure to work with. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs
On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Vic wrote: > I guess, the point they were trying to make is that, just like on the > Mac COMMAND+F5 toggles Voiceover screen reader, iPad could have a > tripple+home set up by default to perform "ask", "zoom" or "voiceover" > function. > But I don't really think it's that big of a deal considering that > Apple store staff is usually well-educated about their products. > > > olivia norman wrote: >> I'm a bit confused here. Voiceover can easily be turned on independently >> through iTunes, or by a sighted user using the settings menu. How is this >> not easily accessible? When I got my iPad an apple store employee simply >> turned on voiceover for me. He knew exactly how to do it, and we also >> enabled the triple click home button option so that he could help me set up >> all my accounts quickly and we could toggle voiceover on and off when we >> needed to. How is this not accessibility out of the box? >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs >> >> On Apr 20, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm a bit confused here. >>> >>> "It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning it >>> has to be activated before the iPad can be used." and "It would have been a >>> real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box. Unfortunately, >>> this was not quite the case." >>> >>> These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird >>> definition of "out of the box". It's a mainstream product. That'd make it >>> too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on by >>> default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is a >>> product not geared "specifically" towards blind people. That's the only >>> thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>> >>>> I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't >>>> think they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the >>>> accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could put >>>> users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible out of >>>> the box that rNIB promotes readily? >>>> I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or disagree >>>> with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions. >>>> >>>> On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most part, >>>>> this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and >>>>> negatives of the product which is good. >>>>> The only area where I have some problems with the article, is that they >>>>> made to big of a deal about activating voiceover through Itunes. This is >>>>> not that hard since it is accessible on both mac and windows, and >>>>> requires all of two seconds to do. Other than that, it's pretty good. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:18 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>> Thought I'd put this article out there for everyone to discuss. I will >>>>>> be writing a blog on my opinions of this article shortly. But here it is >>>>>> for you all to read. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's an article done by the RNIB which is the national charity for the >>>>>> blind in the UK. 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