Simon, Yes, I totally understand. That's exactly why I've often mentioned that this is a difficult problem to nail down. People often have different settings, different model of iPhone, some using wired or wireless headphones and different methods of hanging up the call. Then you compound this with some inconsistencies, and others never actually having the problem, and it's brutally difficult to fix. Developers won't even know where in the code to look for the conflict until these sorts of things get figured out.
Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 21, 2019, at 15:45, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: Tim Just thinking, I’m wondering what differences there are between devices This isn’t as you say happening to everyone and then it could happen to you a couple of times and someone else everytime, So what are people doing differently when hanging Up on a call or what devices are people using that this is happening on, and is it happening differently to people using the same model devices if you understand what I’m meaning. Sent: Tuesday, 22 October 2019 3:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone XS with 13.1.3 went silent again Hi Anders, Yes, I'm not really sure either. I've only had it happen two or three times out of probably hundreds of calls since my update to iOS 13, whereas others have had it happen almost every time. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 21, 2019, at 08:50, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: Hi! I wonder why this causes issues on some phones but not on others. I never have this issue on my XR. /A 20 okt. 2019 kl. 22:29 skrev Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>: That work around would be okay, however if we turn off voice over before we disconnect then the two finger double tap or magic tap won’t work to disconnect the call. We would have to depend on the other person disconnecting the call. And does one lose voiceover if one just waits for the person at the other end of the call to disconnect? I’ve been lucky so far and haven’t had any major bugs with IOS 13, touch wood. On 21/10/2019, at 06:12, Loy Green <loyrg2...@gmail.com <mailto:loyrg2...@gmail.com>> wrote: . I called disability hot line at apple and he told me they were working on a fix. He suggested as a work around that when ever we wer on the phone, to turn off VO before disconnecting, then back on after disconnecting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 10:40 AM Subject: Re: IPhone XS with 13.1.3 went silent again You know, it just occurred to me Lloyd when you mentioned the triple click press to get speech back, that I’ve been dealing with speech loss since iOS 12, and my solution has always been to use the triple click press, only I had to do it two or possibly three times in a row to get speech back it seems to me that people have tried it but I’ve only been doing it the one time. I don’t know, just a crazy idea, but try doing it twice even three times, in fact I’ve had to do it four times in the past it’s like you have to it’s like turning speech off and then back on again and then back on again once again for good measure. If that makes any sense. I will say that when I did lose speech, I still had the voice over Sounds just no voice output. I don’t know if that’s the same condition that we’re having here with this new version or not. Anyway, give it a try triple click three times or even four if necessary then give up on that one Sent from my IPhone On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Loy Green <loyrg2...@gmail.com <mailto:loyrg2...@gmail.com>> wrote: After hanging up with someone on be my eyes my phone went silent. Had to get sighted help to power off and restart, then sound came back. I tried attaching ear phones and the triple tapping power button, non of this helped. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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