Hi,

That's what it has done to me numerous times.  I'll try to do some testing this 
morning and confirm these sorts of things.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 20, 2019, at 21:30, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Tim,
 
Good thinking but will a single click of the side button hang up a call if the 
other end of the call is still active?
 
I thought during a call it just locked / unlocked the phone,
I know that if the phone starts ringing to indicate a call then a single click 
silences the ring and a double click pushs the call directly through to 
voicemail
May be I’ll stress someone out by calling and hanging up.
 
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Simon,
 
I don't believe that this would work as VO is still officially on, thus 
unmuting sound would still result in nothing.  A single press of the side 
button should hang up the call though.  One other issue I've have though is 
attempting to turn off VO with the triple-press of the side button during a 
call, more times than not, it has just hung up the call anyway along with 
turning off VO.  I guess that might still be considered successful if VO was 
verbal when it was turned back on.
 
Later...
 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Oct 20, 2019, at 17:30, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Petrus ]
 
I wondered this myself
 
Would the idea work if vo was muted with a three fi nger double tap 
Hang up the  call once ended then you should still be able to use the two 
finger double tap to end the call and unmute the vo
 
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<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
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Subject: Re: IPhone XS with 13.1.3 went silent again
 
That work around would be okay, however if we turn off voice over before we 
disconnect then the two finger double tap or magic tap won’t work to disconnect 
the call. We would have to depend on the other person disconnecting the call. 
And does one lose voiceover if one just waits for the person at the other end 
of the call to disconnect? I’ve been lucky so far and haven’t had any major 
bugs with IOS 13, touch wood. 



On 21/10/2019, at 06:12, Loy Green <loyrg2...@gmail.com 
<mailto:loyrg2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
.  I called disability hot line at apple and he told me they were working on a 
fix. He suggested as a work around  that when ever we wer on the phone, to turn 
off VO before disconnecting, then back on after disconnecting.
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You know, it just occurred to me Lloyd when you mentioned the triple click 
press to get speech back, that I’ve been dealing with speech loss since iOS 12, 
and my solution has always been to use the triple click press, only I had to do 
it two or possibly three times in a row to get speech back it seems to me that 
people have tried it but I’ve only been doing it the one time. I don’t know, 
just a crazy idea, but try doing it twice even three times, in fact I’ve had to 
do it four times in the past it’s like you have to it’s like turning speech off 
and then back on again and then back on again once again for good measure. If 
that makes any sense. I will say that when I did lose speech, I still had the 
voice over Sounds just no voice output. I don’t know if that’s the same 
condition that we’re having here with this new version or not. Anyway, give it 
a try triple click three times or even four if necessary then give up on that 
one

Sent from my IPhone




On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Loy Green <loyrg2...@gmail.com 
<mailto:loyrg2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

After hanging up with someone on be my eyes my phone went silent. Had to get 
sighted help to power off and restart, then sound came back. I tried attaching 
ear phones and the triple tapping power button, non of this helped.
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