Hi, That's what it has done to me numerous times. I'll try to do some testing this morning and confirm these sorts of things.
Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 20, 2019, at 21:30, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: Tim, Good thinking but will a single click of the side button hang up a call if the other end of the call is still active? I thought during a call it just locked / unlocked the phone, I know that if the phone starts ringing to indicate a call then a single click silences the ring and a double click pushs the call directly through to voicemail May be I’ll stress someone out by calling and hanging up. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, 21 October 2019 3:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone XS with 13.1.3 went silent again Simon, I don't believe that this would work as VO is still officially on, thus unmuting sound would still result in nothing. A single press of the side button should hang up the call though. One other issue I've have though is attempting to turn off VO with the triple-press of the side button during a call, more times than not, it has just hung up the call anyway along with turning off VO. I guess that might still be considered successful if VO was verbal when it was turned back on. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 20, 2019, at 17:30, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Petrus ] I wondered this myself Would the idea work if vo was muted with a three fi nger double tap Hang up the call once ended then you should still be able to use the two finger double tap to end the call and unmute the vo From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Monday, 21 October 2019 9:30 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone XS with 13.1.3 went silent again That work around would be okay, however if we turn off voice over before we disconnect then the two finger double tap or magic tap won’t work to disconnect the call. We would have to depend on the other person disconnecting the call. And does one lose voiceover if one just waits for the person at the other end of the call to disconnect? I’ve been lucky so far and haven’t had any major bugs with IOS 13, touch wood. On 21/10/2019, at 06:12, Loy Green <loyrg2...@gmail.com <mailto:loyrg2...@gmail.com>> wrote: . I called disability hot line at apple and he told me they were working on a fix. He suggested as a work around that when ever we wer on the phone, to turn off VO before disconnecting, then back on after disconnecting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 10:40 AM Subject: Re: IPhone XS with 13.1.3 went silent again You know, it just occurred to me Lloyd when you mentioned the triple click press to get speech back, that I’ve been dealing with speech loss since iOS 12, and my solution has always been to use the triple click press, only I had to do it two or possibly three times in a row to get speech back it seems to me that people have tried it but I’ve only been doing it the one time. I don’t know, just a crazy idea, but try doing it twice even three times, in fact I’ve had to do it four times in the past it’s like you have to it’s like turning speech off and then back on again and then back on again once again for good measure. If that makes any sense. I will say that when I did lose speech, I still had the voice over Sounds just no voice output. I don’t know if that’s the same condition that we’re having here with this new version or not. Anyway, give it a try triple click three times or even four if necessary then give up on that one Sent from my IPhone On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Loy Green <loyrg2...@gmail.com <mailto:loyrg2...@gmail.com>> wrote: After hanging up with someone on be my eyes my phone went silent. Had to get sighted help to power off and restart, then sound came back. I tried attaching ear phones and the triple tapping power button, non of this helped. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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