Hi Anders,

Yes, I'm not really sure either.  I've only had it happen two or three times 
out of probably hundreds of calls since my update to iOS 13, whereas others 
have had it happen almost every time.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 21, 2019, at 08:50, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
I wonder why this causes issues on some phones but not on others.
I never have this issue on my XR.
/A

> 20 okt. 2019 kl. 22:29 skrev Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com 
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> 
> That work around would be okay, however if we turn off voice over before we 
> disconnect then the two finger double tap or magic tap won’t work to 
> disconnect the call. We would have to depend on the other person 
> disconnecting the call. And does one lose voiceover if one just waits for the 
> person at the other end of the call to disconnect? I’ve been lucky so far and 
> haven’t had any major bugs with IOS 13, touch wood. 
> 
>> On 21/10/2019, at 06:12, Loy Green <loyrg2...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:loyrg2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> .  I called disability hot line at apple and he told me they were working on 
>> a fix. He suggested as a work around  that when ever we wer on the phone, to 
>> turn off VO before disconnecting, then back on after disconnecting.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com 
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>> Subject: Re: IPhone XS with 13.1.3 went silent again
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>> You know, it just occurred to me Lloyd when you mentioned the triple click 
>> press to get speech back, that I’ve been dealing with speech loss since iOS 
>> 12, and my solution has always been to use the triple click press, only I 
>> had to do it two or possibly three times in a row to get speech back it 
>> seems to me that people have tried it but I’ve only been doing it the one 
>> time. I don’t know, just a crazy idea, but try doing it twice even three 
>> times, in fact I’ve had to do it four times in the past it’s like you have 
>> to it’s like turning speech off and then back on again and then back on 
>> again once again for good measure. If that makes any sense. I will say that 
>> when I did lose speech, I still had the voice over Sounds just no voice 
>> output. I don’t know if that’s the same condition that we’re having here 
>> with this new version or not. Anyway, give it a try triple click three times 
>> or even four if necessary then give up on that one
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
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>> 
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>>> After hanging up with someone on be my eyes my phone went silent. Had to 
>>> get sighted help to power off and restart, then sound came back. I tried 
>>> attaching ear phones and the triple tapping power button, non of this 
>>> helped.
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