I can’t say I’ve noticed this myself but then I’m using Outlook for my mail 
client and not gmail for my mail services.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Wednesday, 23 October 2019 8:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Messages going to the junk folder

I might have to go into the gmail web-mail page next time it happens and see if 
I can work something out. I just hate using web-mail.


On 23/10/2019, at 08:17, Jessica Moss 
<junglebookfa...@gmail.com<mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I’ve noticed it for about a year or more, even on my Mac, but had no idea what 
was causing it.


On Oct 22, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
<petrus.t...@gmail.com<mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I changed the subject field but wanted to keep the below email, but didn’t want 
to hijack the thread.
I’ve been getting replies to the below thread going to my junk folder like the 
below one, but getting other replies to the same thread by the same people 
going to my inbox. Not sure if this is a bug with the  mails app or if google 
has made changes to their spam filters. I suspect the latta as I can’t see how 
IOS 13 would effect this. I’ve moved the offending emails to my inbox via the 
Mac but it is still happening.
Has anyone else noticed an increase in legitimate emails going to the junk 
folder after updating to IOS 13?


On 23/10/2019, at 05:06, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Simon,

Yes, I totally understand.  That's exactly why I've often mentioned that this 
is a difficult problem to nail down.  People often have different settings, 
different model of iPhone, some using wired or wireless headphones and 
different methods of hanging up the call.  Then you compound this with some 
inconsistencies, and others never actually having the problem, and it's 
brutally difficult to fix.  Developers won't even know where in the code to 
look for the conflict until these sorts of things get figured out.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 21, 2019, at 15:45, Simon A Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Tim

Just thinking,

I’m wondering what differences there are between devices


This isn’t as you say happening to everyone and then it could happen to you a 
couple of times and someone else everytime,
So what are people doing differently when hanging
Up on a call

or what devices are people using that this is happening on,
and is it happening differently to people using the same model devices
if you understand what I’m meaning.
Sent: Tuesday, 22 October 2019 3:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IPhone XS with 13.1.3 went silent again

Hi Anders,

Yes, I'm not really sure either.  I've only had it happen two or three times 
out of probably hundreds of calls since my update to iOS 13, whereas others 
have had it happen almost every time.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 08:50, Anders Holmberg 
<and...@pipkrokodil.se<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
I wonder why this causes issues on some phones but not on others.
I never have this issue on my XR.
/A



20 okt. 2019 kl. 22:29 skrev Petrus Tuerlings 
<petrus.t...@gmail.com<mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>:

That work around would be okay, however if we turn off voice over before we 
disconnect then the two finger double tap or magic tap won’t work to disconnect 
the call. We would have to depend on the other person disconnecting the call. 
And does one lose voiceover if one just waits for the person at the other end 
of the call to disconnect? I’ve been lucky so far and haven’t had any major 
bugs with IOS 13, touch wood.



On 21/10/2019, at 06:12, Loy Green 
<loyrg2...@gmail.com<mailto:loyrg2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

.  I called disability hot line at apple and he told me they were working on a 
fix. He suggested as a work around  that when ever we wer on the phone, to turn 
off VO before disconnecting, then back on after disconnecting.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" 
<philh...@gmail.com<mailto:philh...@gmail.com>>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: IPhone XS with 13.1.3 went silent again


You know, it just occurred to me Lloyd when you mentioned the triple click 
press to get speech back, that I’ve been dealing with speech loss since iOS 12, 
and my solution has always been to use the triple click press, only I had to do 
it two or possibly three times in a row to get speech back it seems to me that 
people have tried it but I’ve only been doing it the one time. I don’t know, 
just a crazy idea, but try doing it twice even three times, in fact I’ve had to 
do it four times in the past it’s like you have to it’s like turning speech off 
and then back on again and then back on again once again for good measure. If 
that makes any sense. I will say that when I did lose speech, I still had the 
voice over Sounds just no voice output. I don’t know if that’s the same 
condition that we’re having here with this new version or not. Anyway, give it 
a try triple click three times or even four if necessary then give up on that 
one

Sent from my IPhone




On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Loy Green 
<loyrg2...@gmail.com<mailto:loyrg2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

After hanging up with someone on be my eyes my phone went silent. Had to get 
sighted help to power off and restart, then sound came back. I tried attaching 
ear phones and the triple tapping power button, non of this helped.
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