Cameras can be great. This has nothing to do with why I think the X sucks though. I see touch ID as being useful it's not there so, a major reason why I see it as being a sucky phone. After having my 7 plus for only a few days I see it to be a pretty nice device. Having 2 speakers is totally better than one, and I keep my touch id and have double the storage and didn't have to break the bank. I call that a win. Guess why I love not having to put the phone near my face every time I wish to unlock it. So I would think at this point touch id would still be faster.
On 11/1/17, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, you are correct with respect to the identical twins aspect of this > feature, although photos, masks and such have no bearing in this process as > the identification process is a 3D process, therefore, 2D photos are > immaterial. This can be affirmed in the same article you partially posted. > My main point is that we need to be careful when posting opinions of > potential, unproven deficiencies. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:36, Robin <[email protected]> wrote: > > No, I,Robin do NOT have any Proof that Apple's TouchID is More or Less > Secure than its NEW FaceID > Although > I have Heard News that Identical Twins Privacy & Security is More Secure > with TouchID as Opposed to its FaceID based on Early Reports of Apple's > FaceID on its ForthComing Anniversary Eidition of the iPhone, the iPhoneX > (Pronounced iPhone10) > > People don't have the Same FingerPrints, but Photos or Faces can be > Identical as IN Identical Twins > > I,Robin Learned through MyStudy of Forensics (Forensic Science) that > FringerPrints Vary from 1 Individual TO Another (Individual) > At 08:30 AM 11/1/2017, you wrote: >> Hi Robin, >> >> do you have some credible source to support your belief about the level of >> security of a Face ID vs a finger-print sensor? I'm not sure if one is >> actually more secure than the other, just another method to do things. As >> I've mentioned a few times before, when the finger-print sensor was first >> introduced on the iPhone, there was tons of noise made about it's probable >> lack of security compared to the good old pass-code. Now that we've had >> it for a while, many people are making it sound like it's the best thing >> yet and anything new won't do. We are all welcome to our opinions, but I >> believe that it is beneficial to base these opinions on sound research, >> rather than hear-say. You may be right in the end, I'm really not sure, >> but I haven't seen anything but arm-chair opinions so far. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Nov 1, 2017, at 00:05, Robin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Why do you Beleive Apple's Face ID is SO Secure because Apple Says So? >> Personally, I Beleive >> Touch ID is More Secure & Gives Users More Security & Privacy than Apple's >> Face ID >> >> Would Apple go Away from The Norm & Keep its iPhoneX special by Having >> it be the ONLY iPhone to come Equipped With Face ID for a Couple of Years >> to Justify the Price? >> Probably Not >> At 10:59 PM 10/31/2017, you wrote: >> > Hi Tim, >> > >> > Facial recog is more secure than finger prints in this products case. >> > >> > But yes an identical twin would be required and then I believe may still >> > struggle. >> > >> > I'll be surprised if someone doesn't crack the facial recognition some >> > time soonn as they did pretty quickly with samsungs galaxy s8 version of >> > it. >> > Which I believe is only retinal scan. Or was it iris scanning. >> > >> > But either way, >> > If the looking directly at the phone / screen feature is auto disabled >> > if vo is active, is that not a good feature for us as they have seen >> > there may be an issue for blind / VI users looking actually at the phone >> > camera. >> > To me this is a forward thought. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn >> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:56 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 >> > hours - CNET >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > While I don't wish to minimize anyone's concerns, Face ID even without >> > the eye contact feature is still very secure. You basically need to be >> > a twin to be able to fool the system from most things I've heard or >> > read. When the finger-print sensor was first introduced on the iPhone, >> > there was quite a bit of noise made about possible security flaws, and >> > now we're touting it as more secure than Face ID. I'm just not >> > confident in many of these opinions out there. Joe Public just doesn't >> > have the in-depth data required to do a proper assessment of its true >> > security risks. >> > >> > Later... >> > >> > >> > Tim Kilburn >> > Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> > >> > On Oct 31, 2017, at 17:32, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > The thing that makes me sad is that Apple, by all accounts, including >> > theirs, is abandoning touch ID completely on the phone. The security >> > issue is specifically if you disable that part of face id that requires >> > you to actually look at the phone. I think I read that this will be off >> > by default if the system detects VO is in use. 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