On 1 Nov 2017, at 17:00, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
Yes, you are correct with respect to the identical twins aspect of this
feature, although photos, masks and such have no bearing in this process as the
identification process is a 3D process, therefore, 2D photos are immaterial.
This can be affirmed in the same article you partially posted. My main point
is that we need to be careful when posting opinions of potential, unproven
deficiencies.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:36, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
No, I,Robin do NOT have any Proof that Apple's TouchID is More or Less
Secure than its NEW FaceID Although I have Heard News that Identical
Twins Privacy & Security is More Secure with TouchID as Opposed to its
FaceID based on Early Reports of Apple's FaceID on its ForthComing
Anniversary Eidition of the iPhone, the iPhoneX (Pronounced iPhone10)
People don't have the Same FingerPrints, but Photos or Faces can be
Identical as IN Identical Twins
I,Robin Learned through MyStudy of Forensics (Forensic Science) that
FringerPrints Vary from 1 Individual TO Another (Individual) At 08:30 AM
11/1/2017, you wrote:
Hi Robin,
do you have some credible source to support your belief about the level of
security of a Face ID vs a finger-print sensor? I'm not sure if one is
actually more secure than the other, just another method to do things. As I've
mentioned a few times before, when the finger-print sensor was first introduced
on the iPhone, there was tons of noise made about it's probable lack of
security compared to the good old pass-code. Now that we've had it for a
while, many people are making it sound like it's the best thing yet and
anything new won't do. We are all welcome to our opinions, but I believe that
it is beneficial to base these opinions on sound research, rather than
hear-say. You may be right in the end, I'm really not sure, but I haven't seen
anything but arm-chair opinions so far.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Nov 1, 2017, at 00:05, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
Why do you Beleive Apple's Face ID is SO Secure because Apple Says So?
Personally, I Beleive
Touch ID is More Secure & Gives Users More Security & Privacy than
Apple's Face ID
Would Apple go Away from The Norm & Keep its iPhoneX special by Having it be
the ONLY iPhone to come Equipped With Face ID for a Couple of Years to Justify the
Price?
Probably Not
At 10:59 PM 10/31/2017, you wrote:
Hi Tim,
Facial recog is more secure than finger prints in this products case.
But yes an identical twin would be required and then I believe may still
struggle.
I'll be surprised if someone doesn't crack the facial recognition some time
soonn as they did pretty quickly with samsungs galaxy s8 version of it.
Which I believe is only retinal scan. Or was it iris scanning.
But either way,
If the looking directly at the phone / screen feature is auto disabled if vo is
active, is that not a good feature for us as they have seen there may be an
issue for blind / VI users looking actually at the phone camera.
To me this is a forward thought.
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Hi,
While I don't wish to minimize anyone's concerns, Face ID even without the eye
contact feature is still very secure. You basically need to be a twin to be
able to fool the system from most things I've heard or read. When the
finger-print sensor was first introduced on the iPhone, there was quite a bit
of noise made about possible security flaws, and now we're touting it as more
secure than Face ID. I'm just not confident in many of these opinions out
there. Joe Public just doesn't have the in-depth data required to do a proper
assessment of its true security risks.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 31, 2017, at 17:32, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
The thing that makes me sad is that Apple, by all accounts, including theirs,
is abandoning touch ID completely on the phone. The security issue is
specifically if you disable that part of face id that requires you to actually
look at the phone. I think I read that this will be off by default if the
system detects VO is in use. And this means there is less security to the face
id feature than is the case if this setting is left enabled.
Mary
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