I understand the theory of cloud computing. I'm not going to drink the Kool-Aid completely. All the stuff about redundancies and back up things here and there. One of the things it spells for me is availability to hackers. The more stuff you put up there, the greater the vulnerability. And don't tell me that all these companies that are worried more about profit than anything else or doing even half of what they should be doing for security, because I won't believe it. Speaking of the big one, it seems to me I remember a few years ago, not all that many, there was a major storm in the east which caused a substantial power outage, and cloud services for some companies went down, affecting everybody in the country who use that company. Was it Netflix? Amazon? I don't remember, but I do remember there was something of a flap about it in the news. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > > Mary, do I know what mainframes areJ. Does IBM 4300 ring a bell? That was > one of my first experiences. But your showing your lack of knowledge of > cloud. There’s nothing to go down in the cloud. Other than being > responsible for your own internet connection which is no different than being > responsible for water and traditional phone or TV there’s nothing singularily > to fail like there is in the case of a mainframe. In your mainframe example, > terminal lines were run all over hill and dale back to a central point where > a large (typically IBM) mainframe existed. For the youngsters here a > mainframe typically occupied an entire building. Much of the building > consisted of rooms full of terminals, in many cases terminals with green > screens capable of displaying text only and in more high end cases graphical > terminals that used a version of X windows to simulate a graphical > environment over remote connections. These terminals also had ajoining > pieces which were modems on large tracks. If a call came in a modem would > slide down a track, slide in to place where a phone line is attached and > service the call. If an outbound request came in a modem was selected and > slotted to a line where it was then joined with a sepperate pulser that > dialed the line, disengaged and snapped the modem in to place for the > duration of the call and then reclaimed it for use on other jobs once > complete. This was all mechanical and is the history behind /dev/tty and > /dev/cua devices on unix machines today. When you see TTYs mentioned on > linux this is why. > These were all mechanical systems that easily broke and > required teams of operators. The cloud is no such animal. The cloud does > not exist in any one place when deployed correctly by these large companies. > There is no one piece of infrastructure to fail. When there are failures > other redundant systems pick up the slack and convergence times are measured > now in milliseconds not hours or minutes. It’s even geographical. Say your > data is housed in a large amazon datacenter in Santa Clara county and the big > one hits California. Bam, 9.0, millions dead, dogs and cats sleeping > together, ground swallowing sort of stuff. Me sitting in Boston wouldn’t > care because the Virginia datacenter has already taken over before I even > have time to watch the special bulletin on my TV about the big one hitting. > No one vendor is used so no one software bug can take out a properly designed > system. Upgrades are rolled out across regions with rollback policies and > procedures so that if issues are introduced they can be addressed or rolled > back with out you having to worry about it. Your accessibility concerns are > valid ones but 1 million people’s accessibility concerns will not stop the > progress of 7 billion others. As I’ve always said, the only way to solve the > accessibility issue is to solve the disability issue and that’s through > medical and technical means. Meaningful artificial vision / hearing / touch > / what ever the sense is the only solution, raising everyone up to the > highest common denominator rather than making everything work for every one > off use case of limited perception or motor / cognitive ability. Maybe we > old timers won’t live that long but maybe we will make it another 40 – 60 > years. The kids will and that’s what matters. We old folks wishing > computing would stay on our desk tops and for the way it was just doesn’t > matter a hill of beans. The kids are already sold on this, they all have > thin clients in their hands (phones and tablets) with very powerful clouds > behind them (facebook, snapchat, apple, Microsoft, etc). Whether we like it > or not, it’s done, cats out of the bag, kids will build on ths model and come > up with something we can’t even imagine and totally change things again. My > daughter’s kids some day will say wow this cloud thing sucks, how did people > live with things the way they were. They will be working with quantum > computers or stuff we have no idea about. It’s like our Parents, we’ll never > work with computers, computers suck, yada yada yada but here we are.:) > > From: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Mary Otten > <motte...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Date: Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 10:24 AM > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster > Approvals, and Search Ads > > Cloud is a good thing? In its place, yes. But who remembers mainframes? Maybe > you are not old enough for that, Scott. When the mainframe goes down, life > stops. Or at least computer life stops. And you are at the mercy of the > mainframe or in this case cloud, operators. No update. Well yeah there would > be updates. And maybe the update you just got broke the app that you've been > using quite happily. You know how people sort of weight on upgrades to see > how they go? With this,, it doesn't seem like you would have that option. > I'm certainly OK with subscription services that I use on a monthly basis, > such as Apple Music etc. Although there was that little rumor going around > stating that Apple was considering dropping downloadable music that you > purchase on iTunes. That would be a definite showstopper for me. If I really > like something, I want to own it. I don't want to have to keep paying for > every damn month. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 9, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > > Nah, it’s not a per app charge and you already do this today it’s no > different. You pay your SMA fees to the screen reader provider of your > choice, you pay your office 365 yearly fee, apple music, and so forth. It’s > no different. It’s also a smaller nut to crack up front for a lot of people > which is a good thing. > > The good news here is no more updates, no flashing, no nothing. 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