This is all in the final release, the betas don't even enter into it. I saw the severity and frequency of this problem fluctuate through the different El Cap betas, but I'm referring here only to the final version. > On Oct 1, 2015, at 15:01, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Is that in the beta though, or the official release? Sorry for asking. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com> > To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: El Capitan Is Here > > > Just to address the mail problem. Yes, this was a bug in Yosemite as well, > and yes, it's random. What I meant to say in my bug, and what I don't think I > made clear, is that El Cap has made it worse. For instance, I used to > sometimes get the sender's name and the text in a scroll area. Now, in El > Cap, I nearly always get that, and am sometimes not even placed there but > rather on a toolbar that has no message text at all. So yes, this bug has > been around for a while, but El Cap has (on my machine) made it worse. Sorry > for any confusion on this one. >> On Oct 1, 2015, at 14:50, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Just wanted to throw in my two cents worth to say that ever since Yosemite, >> I have also had that intermittant issue with e-mail messages not reading >> when you open them. Yeah, you can hit vo+J from the message list table, but >> I'm old school. I prefer literally openning the message with the return >> key. Call me weird, but that's that. LOL! So, just wanted to acknowledge >> that you're not alone on that one bug. I've seen it too, and hate it! >> >> Chris. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Goodin" <doniado...@me.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 1:03 PM >> Subject: Re: El Capitan Is Here >> >> >> Hi Mary, >> >> The one that bugs me the most on a day-to-day basis is the one pertaining to >> mail messages. It's very rare that I open a message and just get to read >> it. I very often have to open and close it several times. >> >> there were others I noticed, I think pertaining to the Safari busy. and >> having to show and hide the reader a couple of times. But the mail one is >> the bug that really drives me crazy. >> Take care, >> Donna >> >>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Donna, >>> I would be curious which of Alex's bugs you experienced in Yosemite. Some >>> of the ones I recall reading on his list I am certainly not experiencing, >>> and those are some of the more serious ones. Audio ducking doesn't much >>> concern me. But the web stuff, getting stuck on webpages, the problems with >>> the neuance etc., those do concern me a lot. >>> Mary >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 4:45 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I finally had a minute to read Alex's bugs list. I thought it worth >>>> mentioning that many of those bugs are bugs I'm currently experiencing in >>>> Yosemite. so, while I confess I was hoping they would be fixed in el >>>> Capitán, these are not new bugs, just old ones that didn't get fixed. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug >>>>> list for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as there >>>>> are some pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog, and did a >>>>> podcast, covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links: >>>>> >>>>> Bug List: >>>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor >>>>> >>>>> New Features Blog: >>>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users >>>>> >>>>> New Features Podcast: >>>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan >>>>> >>>>> I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a >>>>> little arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give people a >>>>> single place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those are the >>>>> only accessibility-centric sources I know of for now. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex Hall >>>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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