Hello Alex, Thanks for the blog, podcast, and bug report. Most of all, thanks for your honesty regarding these bugs. The bugs here are really tough to deal with. As someone who really likes using the Mac, but is an average user, for the first time, I think I’m going to wait for another update. Since the mainstream is reporting great stability, I think those of us who rely on voiceover will be waiting longer than usual.. I know that with every new release, there are always bugs. but these are significant. It is very disheartening to see this in a long-awaited release. And no, this is not a rant about Apple not caring about accessibility. > On Sep 30, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: > > As with any new operating system, I would suggest waiting until at least the > first, maybe the second major update before installing it, much safer that > way. > Original message: >> You can’t really go by these bug lists. They may be an issue for one >> person, not on another. Depends on a lot of factors. > > >>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Thank you so much, Alex for posting this list of bugs in the new operating >>> system. Having just read a mainstream review the talked about how this was >>> a "rock solid" release, it is disheartening to see so many bugs in your >>> list. I do know that Apple cares about accessibility. But it is damned hard >>> to keep that in mind when they release a rock solid version with so many >>> Voice over bugs. I have to believe that equivalent functionality for the >>> mainstream would not be impacted in a release version. But because we are a >>> small group, we can wait. And we can love it, as I'm sure the critics will >>> now come out and tell me. > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > >>>> Hi all, >>>> Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug >>>> list for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as there >>>> are some pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog, and did a >>>> podcast, covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links: > >>>> Bug List: >>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor > >>>> New Features Blog: >>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users > >>>> New Features Podcast: >>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan > >>>> I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a little >>>> arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give people a single >>>> place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those are the only >>>> accessibility-centric sources I know of for now. > >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex Hall >>>> mehg...@icloud.com > >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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