As I mentioned, I’m not getting a lot of these bugs.  I experienced the email 
bug for a bit but on reboot it hasn’t happened again since yesterday.  No audio 
docking bug and haven’t run in to anything else yet although I’m sure I will.  
So far so good though, much cleaner than the jump to Yosemite was.  


> On Sep 30, 2015, at 9:57 PM, denise avant <denise.av...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Alex,
> Thanks for the blog, podcast, and bug report. Most of all, thanks for your 
> honesty  regarding these bugs.
> The bugs here are really tough to deal with. As someone who really likes 
> using the Mac, but is an average user, for the first time, I  think I’m going 
> to wait for another update. Since the mainstream is reporting great 
> stability, I think those of us who rely on voiceover will be waiting longer 
> than usual..
> I know that with every new release, there are always bugs. but these are 
> significant. It is very disheartening to see this in a long-awaited release. 
> And no, this is not a rant about Apple not caring about accessibility. 
>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> As with any new operating system, I would suggest waiting until at least the 
>> first, maybe the second major update before installing it, much safer that 
>> way.
>> Original message:
>>> You can’t really go by these bug lists.  They may be an issue for one 
>>> person, not on another.  Depends on a lot of factors.
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Thank you so much, Alex for posting this list of bugs in the new operating 
>>>> system. Having just read a mainstream review the talked about how this was 
>>>> a "rock solid" release, it is disheartening to see so many bugs in your 
>>>> list. I do know that Apple cares about accessibility. But it is damned 
>>>> hard to keep that in mind when they release a rock solid version with so 
>>>> many Voice over bugs. I have to believe that equivalent functionality for 
>>>> the mainstream would not be impacted in a release version. But because we 
>>>> are a small group, we can wait. And we can love it, as I'm sure the 
>>>> critics will now come out and tell me.
>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug 
>>>>> list for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as there 
>>>>> are some pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog, and did a 
>>>>> podcast, covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links:
>> 
>>>>> Bug List:
>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor
>> 
>>>>> New Features Blog:
>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users
>> 
>>>>> New Features Podcast:
>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan
>> 
>>>>> I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a 
>>>>> little arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give people a 
>>>>> single place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those are the 
>>>>> only accessibility-centric sources I know of for now.
>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>> Alex Hall
>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com
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