I heard once that there is, but I do not know anything more. I consider it a 
rumor which I have not researched. Unfortunately, that is all I know at this 
time.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Jul 2015, at 12:00, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> OK, David, let's approach this differently, as you still may could help.
>  
> Is there a way to modify/create braille tables on the Mac?  If so, where'd we 
> go to look and see if indeed your theory regarding the braille table is 
> correct?  I couldn't begin to imagine how this would have happened, but I 
> suppose anything's possible.
>  
> Chris.
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Chittenden
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 7:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Weirdest thing ever! with refreshable braille display!
> 
> My apologies, I read your original message to mean that a different display 
> did not have the same issues. If it was the same display, the problem is 
> specific to your Mac. I would consider the braille translation tables. 
> Perhaps your table is somehow set to display end-of-line / linefeed 
> characters. Sorry, I do not know how to modify the braille tables.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 22 Jul 2015, at 10:19, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wait a minute though David.
>>  
>> Why then if that is the case was Ben able to get this thing to not exhibit 
>> that behavior on his macbook, with identically the same configuration, and 
>> the same OS?  Not just the same OS, mind you, but the exact same build, 
>> even.  I hear what you're saying, but that still doesn't appear to answer my 
>> question... or... does it?
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Chittenden
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 5:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: Weirdest thing ever! with refreshable braille display!
>> 
>> It is probably the braille display. As the original model, it does not have 
>> any updated firmware drivers built-in to it, and it has not been supported 
>> for several years.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 22 Jul 2015, at 08:49, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Guys,
>>>  
>>> I swear to God I'm about ready to pull my f***ing hair out over here!  So 
>>> is my friend.
>>>  
>>> I never ever have ever used a braille display before.  My friend who flew 
>>> down to visit with me for a few weeks brought along with him a Packmate QX 
>>> 40 original USB braille display.  This is not the up to date display.  It's 
>>> only the classic model.  He got it in 2004 if that helps.
>>>  
>>> I have plugged it into my I5 Mac Mini Late 2012 system, running Yosemite 
>>> 10.10.4.  This is not a public beta or the like.  This is the official 
>>> available up to date release.  I have also pulled the EFI firmware update 
>>> that just came down on July the 15th, if that makes any difference, 
>>> although, even before doing so, I still saw this issue.
>>>  
>>> I have disabled all the status cells, and am using contracted braille, 
>>> therefore causing dot 7 8 braille to be disabled.
>>>  
>>> In my Voiceover Utility, (VO+F8,) I have disabled the showing of the 
>>> Voiceover Cursor, although even when turned on, I'm still noticing this 
>>> issue.
>>>  
>>> I've reset Voiceover to all default settings, and even have imported my 
>>> friend's Voiceover settings from his macbook which did absolutely no good.
>>>  
>>> The issue is that when I go into Text Edit, and create either a rich text, 
>>> or a plain txt document, either/or, which has carriage returns throughout 
>>> the file, I'm literally seeing the physical carriage return code on the 
>>> display.
>>>  
>>> So, for instance, say I open up Text Edit, and type the following:
>>>  
>>> Hello, then after the letter o in hello is typed, I immediately hit return 
>>> to make a new line.
>>>  
>>> Then on the next line of text, I write: 
>>> My name is Chris.
>>>  
>>> OK, if you're reading this with a braille display currently, and you are in 
>>> uncontracted braille, let me type out literally what you'll see.  Note to 
>>> nonbraille display users, the following line of text is going to look very 
>>> strange:
>>>  
>>> ,hello1 my "n is ,*ris4
>>>  
>>> However, after the low d, (dots 2, 5, and 6,) for the period sign, I see 
>>> the letter j, (dots 2, 4, and 5,) plus in that same cell, dots 7 and 8.  
>>> Just to further! wackid things up, as if that isn't odd enough, if I move 
>>> the literal text edit insertion point to the end of the first line of text 
>>> with command+up arrow, followed by command+right arrow, that j+dots 7 and 8 
>>> now turns into two cells.  Both have dots 7 8 under them.  Basically, now, 
>>> instead of just a letter j, I now see m, (dots 1, 3, and 4,) followed by 
>>> the letter j, (dots 2, 4, and 5.) 
>>>  
>>> So in other words, instead of seeing:
>>>  
>>> Hello
>>> My name is Chris.
>>>  
>>> I see:
>>>  
>>> cap sign, (dot 6,) helloj+dots 7 and 8my name is cap sign chris.
>>>  
>>> All of that on one line of text.  Move to the end of the line with the word 
>>> hello, and then it goes to:
>>>  
>>> Hellomj+dots 7 and 8my name is Chris.
>>>  
>>> Again, all on one line.  No, I am not mistaking the j or mj with dots 7 and 
>>> 8 as the blinking cursor.  That's just showing as a blinking dot 7, which 
>>> is to the right of the mj, or if at the start of the line, is under the dot 
>>> 6 capital sign.
>>>  
>>> I've tried turning off contracted braille, and also have tried enabling and 
>>> disabling dot 7 8 braille.  NO good.
>>>  
>>> I've tried English US, and also have tried English Unified in Braille on 
>>> Voiceover Utility in the language popup button.  They both are producing 
>>> this issue.
>>>  
>>> I've rebooted the mac.  NO good.  I've unplugged and replugged the USB cord 
>>> both from the mac side, and from the display side.  I've swapped out the 
>>> USB cable, and that didn't work either.
>>>  
>>> I've thrown the thing across the room and then paid him back ten grand.  
>>> LOL!  Only kidding on that one!  I feel like I could! though?
>>>  
>>> I called Apple Accessibility, 1-877-204-3930, Option 2 from IVR, and they 
>>> were stumped beyond belief!  My friend using a white Polycarbon macbook mid 
>>> 2010, 13 inch also on Yosemite 10.10.4 official release is not having this 
>>> issue.
>>>  
>>> We've looked in Text Edit's preferences, and compared our settings.  All 
>>> are 100% identical.  I've reset my settings.  NO good.  I'm totally out of 
>>> possibilities.  I think Pages calls these things the display is showing, 
>>> "Invisibles."  Pages isn't having this issue though.  It is *only!* doing 
>>> it in Text Edit.  My friend isn't having this issue at all.  Not even! in 
>>> Text Edit.  This isn't an assumption either.  We very concreetly tried it, 
>>> and sure enough.  It's not occurring on his system.
>>>  
>>> The only thing I've not done is to delete the .plist file associated with 
>>> Text Edit.  I'm not sure though where that file would be exactly, nor what 
>>> it would be called.  I'm sure I could find it easily enough, but I've not 
>>> gone that far just quite yet.
>>>  
>>> Aside that though, I am totally out of options!
>>>  
>>> I've even looked under Accessibility within System Prefs, but see 
>>> absolutely nothing rellavent.
>>>  
>>> Please please! can someone help before I go insane over here trying to 
>>> figure this out, or put my friend in a mental institution?  LOL!
>>>  
>>> Chris.
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