OK, David, let's approach this differently, as you still may could help.
Is there a way to modify/create braille tables on the Mac? If so, where'd we
go to look and see if indeed your theory regarding the braille table is
correct? I couldn't begin to imagine how this would have happened, but I
suppose anything's possible.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Chittenden
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: Weirdest thing ever! with refreshable braille display!
My apologies, I read your original message to mean that a different display
did not have the same issues. If it was the same display, the problem is
specific to your Mac. I would consider the braille translation tables. Perhaps
your table is somehow set to display end-of-line / linefeed characters. Sorry,
I do not know how to modify the braille tables.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 22 Jul 2015, at 10:19, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wait a minute though David.
Why then if that is the case was Ben able to get this thing to not exhibit
that behavior on his macbook, with identically the same configuration, and the
same OS? Not just the same OS, mind you, but the exact same build, even. I
hear what you're saying, but that still doesn't appear to answer my question...
or... does it?
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Chittenden
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Weirdest thing ever! with refreshable braille display!
It is probably the braille display. As the original model, it does not
have any updated firmware drivers built-in to it, and it has not been supported
for several years.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 22 Jul 2015, at 08:49, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
I swear to God I'm about ready to pull my f***ing hair out over here!
So is my friend.
I never ever have ever used a braille display before. My friend who
flew down to visit with me for a few weeks brought along with him a Packmate QX
40 original USB braille display. This is not the up to date display. It's
only the classic model. He got it in 2004 if that helps.
I have plugged it into my I5 Mac Mini Late 2012 system, running
Yosemite 10.10.4. This is not a public beta or the like. This is the official
available up to date release. I have also pulled the EFI firmware update that
just came down on July the 15th, if that makes any difference, although, even
before doing so, I still saw this issue.
I have disabled all the status cells, and am using contracted braille,
therefore causing dot 7 8 braille to be disabled.
In my Voiceover Utility, (VO+F8,) I have disabled the showing of the
Voiceover Cursor, although even when turned on, I'm still noticing this issue.
I've reset Voiceover to all default settings, and even have imported my
friend's Voiceover settings from his macbook which did absolutely no good.
The issue is that when I go into Text Edit, and create either a rich
text, or a plain txt document, either/or, which has carriage returns throughout
the file, I'm literally seeing the physical carriage return code on the display.
So, for instance, say I open up Text Edit, and type the following:
Hello, then after the letter o in hello is typed, I immediately hit
return to make a new line.
Then on the next line of text, I write:
My name is Chris.
OK, if you're reading this with a braille display currently, and you
are in uncontracted braille, let me type out literally what you'll see. Note
to nonbraille display users, the following line of text is going to look very
strange:
,hello1 my "n is ,*ris4
However, after the low d, (dots 2, 5, and 6,) for the period sign, I
see the letter j, (dots 2, 4, and 5,) plus in that same cell, dots 7 and 8.
Just to further! wackid things up, as if that isn't odd enough, if I move the
literal text edit insertion point to the end of the first line of text with
command+up arrow, followed by command+right arrow, that j+dots 7 and 8 now
turns into two cells. Both have dots 7 8 under them. Basically, now, instead
of just a letter j, I now see m, (dots 1, 3, and 4,) followed by the letter j,
(dots 2, 4, and 5.)
So in other words, instead of seeing:
Hello
My name is Chris.
I see:
cap sign, (dot 6,) helloj+dots 7 and 8my name is cap sign chris.
All of that on one line of text. Move to the end of the line with the
word hello, and then it goes to:
Hellomj+dots 7 and 8my name is Chris.
Again, all on one line. No, I am not mistaking the j or mj with dots 7
and 8 as the blinking cursor. That's just showing as a blinking dot 7, which
is to the right of the mj, or if at the start of the line, is under the dot 6
capital sign.
I've tried turning off contracted braille, and also have tried enabling
and disabling dot 7 8 braille. NO good.
I've tried English US, and also have tried English Unified in Braille
on Voiceover Utility in the language popup button. They both are producing
this issue.
I've rebooted the mac. NO good. I've unplugged and replugged the USB
cord both from the mac side, and from the display side. I've swapped out the
USB cable, and that didn't work either.
I've thrown the thing across the room and then paid him back ten grand.
LOL! Only kidding on that one! I feel like I could! though?
I called Apple Accessibility, 1-877-204-3930, Option 2 from IVR, and
they were stumped beyond belief! My friend using a white Polycarbon macbook
mid 2010, 13 inch also on Yosemite 10.10.4 official release is not having this
issue.
We've looked in Text Edit's preferences, and compared our settings.
All are 100% identical. I've reset my settings. NO good. I'm totally out of
possibilities. I think Pages calls these things the display is showing,
"Invisibles." Pages isn't having this issue though. It is *only!* doing it in
Text Edit. My friend isn't having this issue at all. Not even! in Text Edit.
This isn't an assumption either. We very concreetly tried it, and sure enough.
It's not occurring on his system.
The only thing I've not done is to delete the .plist file associated
with Text Edit. I'm not sure though where that file would be exactly, nor what
it would be called. I'm sure I could find it easily enough, but I've not gone
that far just quite yet.
Aside that though, I am totally out of options!
I've even looked under Accessibility within System Prefs, but see
absolutely nothing rellavent.
Please please! can someone help before I go insane over here trying to
figure this out, or put my friend in a mental institution? LOL!
Chris.
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