Sure thing.

On 6/14/2015 8:37 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
Shaff,

You need to review your own compass in regards to torrented software. There is 
no support with it, you have no access to related documents, can’t report bugs 
nor will you feel good with something which source you have no idea about. 
Forget the debate here, you won’t get anyone on your side.


On 15/06/2015, at 5:26 AM, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> 
wrote:

Trust me, you, could, be, sued. Apple has the powers to seek an injunction for 
those who violate the NDA. It is very, unlikely, yes, but not worth the risk. 
After all, you pay the $99 to get your hands on beta software, why then go 
through all that trouble? Don't believe us? Look at the agreement set in your 
developer account.
Chris


On 14 Jun 2015, at 12:37, Shaf <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Apple aren't going to sue you. They have better things to do than take you to 
court; they're not the RIAA.

On 6/14/2015 12:24 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
Well, Chris G has a valid point. I'd hate it if Apple found out that I 
torrented my beta software and I got sued for it. I think I'll just wait until 
the public beta comes or if I can get my Apple Tutoring business off the 
ground, I'll buy a developer account. Anyway I'll stop as I know that promoting 
my business is against list rules.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



On Jun 14, 2015, at 6:09 AM, Shaf <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:

I paid a lot of money for my Apple devices. I'll torrent my beta preview 
software if I like, thanks. I paid for apps that I want to support the 
developers/company for, other than that I have no need to support somebody who 
is already well 'funded'. Reporting every torrent user (including myself) is a 
waist of your time and your resources.
Good luck.


-Shaf

On 6/14/2015 6:06 AM, gs wrote:
Christopher-Mark -
Have you caught anybody yet and reported them? If I received information that 
someone had downloaded a torrent of the beta version of the                     
operating system and subsequently installed it, how would I go about reporting 
it? Any help you can give me is truly appreciated as I think I know someone who 
has violated the law.

If you are not normally so prideful and strict, what has caused the vigilance 
with regard to Apple and your admirable dedication to such a rigorous ethical 
position? I'm only curious as I recently saw a discussion where you seemed to 
have some doubts related to your ability to report issues to Apple.

Out of curiosity, I wonder if you could explain what you mean by your statement 
that Apple is one of the few things for which you will not bend your policy (I 
assume this is the proud and strict policy). Do you mean that it is acceptable 
to pirate software developed by companies other than Apple?
How did you develop this discriminatory viewpoint? It would be quite 
instructive to know the other things, the very few instances,
where you will not "bend this policy."

I hate to come across as a butt, but I'm frankly getting tired of wading 
through this garbage.


On Jun 14, 2015, at 1:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

I dono, but the bottom line is that's illegal, and being I'm a dev, I'm legally 
obligated to reporting anyone who I catch doing this.  Normally, I'm not so 
prideful nor strict with things like this, however, Apple is one of the very 
few things I will *not!* bend this policy on under any circumstances!

But yes, you probably would most likely void updates, however updates should be 
the least! of your worries.

Chris.

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From: Shawn Krasniuk
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: el capitan

Wouldn't downloading El Capitan through Torrent void any software updates it 
may have in the future?

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



On Jun 13, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Shaf <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:

No, but you can torrent the current beta from your favorite site for free.

On 6/13/2015 9:59 PM, Krysti .Power wrote:
Does anyone know the release date for the public beta
On Jun 8, 2015 8:32 PM, <sadamahmed1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ricardo,

Thanks for confirming.

Looking forward to downloading.

Regards,

Sadam Ahmed

Sent from my iPhone

--



On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:58 am, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

They will be available in the public beta program in July.

hth
On Jun 8, 2015, at 6:49 PM, sadam ahmed <sadamahmed1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Is iOS 9 and the next version of OS X available to download as part of the 
public beta program?

Totally missed the stream.

It was being streamed at some disgusting time like  3 AM in Australia.

Sadam Ahmed

Certificate IV in International Trade

Vocational College of Business

RMIT University

LinkedIn:

https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/

https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/

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On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:43 am, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

I just found something out which maybe Apple might fix. I found out that Alex 
doesn't know how to say El Capitan properly lol. But getting back on topic, 
glad to know that I'll be able to use it on this thing. I missed WWDC today so 
did they say when the public will be able to beta test it? I know we get the 
beta for iOS 9in July but what about El Capitan?

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



On Jun 8, 2015, at 4:48 PM, gs <geoffsli...@gmail.com> wrote:

The way I understood the situation is that iOS 9 and El Capitan will work on 
all hardware supported by iOS 8 and Yosemite.

On Jun 8, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

Wouldn't we beta testers get permission to download the El Capitan beta 
automatically? That's really not my main concern, my main concern is will I be 
able to run it on my mid 2010 white MacBook? From what I heard on Twitter, it 
sounds like El Capitan has an advanced graphics engine or something like that. 
So is this the end of the line for me? Yosemite I mean.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



On Jun 8, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera <dionip...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

ok, thanks, i'll just have to wait to request again. :)
On 08 Jun 2015, at 10:28 pm, Daniel <topdog2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Probably so. Not a hundred percent sure.

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