OK, let me explain.

First off, absolutely not, I do not condone distributing pirated software of 
any company.  That's not what I meant to imply.

As for reporting to Apple, I'd basically just call their toll free Developer 
support line and speak to an Apple Dev advisor about it, and give them the 
information I knew about the individual.  then, if they wish to pursue it any 
further, that's then to their disgression.  All I can do is simply tell them, 
at which point it's then out of my hands.  I've done my part at that point.

As for the strictness thing, let me also explain what I meant by that.  You 
have to understand that I teach professionally how to use Apple products.  It 
would not help my credibility nor my reputation if I wasn't so strict.  Though 
I wouldn't really necessarily report you for pirating software, I wouldn't 
support the act of doing so.  With Apple, it's a little different since I 
actually do this for a job, and now possess an Apple certification.  Might I 
add, it took me lots of hard work to get this, so therefore, I don't want it 
taken away from me, and I'm a bit concerned that frankly, if I didn't report 
it, yet I knew of someone who was breaking the  developer policy, I could get 
in trouble.  It's the whole, if you knew, why didn't you say anything.

So yeah, it's not meant to be... in your words... discriminatory.  I'm sorry 
you took it that way.  I'm honestly not sure why you did, but, yeah.

Chris.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: gs 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:06 AM
  Subject: Re: el capitan


  Christopher-Mark -
  Have you caught anybody yet and reported them? If I received information that 
someone had downloaded a torrent of the beta version of the operating system 
and subsequently installed it, how would I go about reporting it? Any help you 
can give me is truly appreciated as I think I know someone who has violated the 
law.


  If you are not normally so prideful and strict, what has caused the vigilance 
with regard to Apple and your admirable dedication to such a rigorous ethical 
position? I'm only curious as I recently saw a discussion where you seemed to 
have some doubts related to your ability to report issues to Apple.


  Out of curiosity, I wonder if you could explain what you mean by your 
statement that Apple is one of the few things for which you will not bend your 
policy (I assume this is the proud and strict policy). Do you mean that it is 
acceptable to pirate software developed by companies other than Apple?
   How did you develop this discriminatory viewpoint? It would be quite 
instructive to know the other things, the very few instances, 
  where you will not "bend this policy."


  I hate to come across as a butt, but I'm frankly getting tired of wading 
through this garbage.




  On Jun 14, 2015, at 1:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


  I dono, but the bottom line is that's illegal, and being I'm a dev, I'm 
legally obligated to reporting anyone who I catch doing this.  Normally, I'm 
not so prideful nor strict with things like this, however, Apple is one of the 
very few things I will *not!* bend this policy on under any circumstances!

  But yes, you probably would most likely void updates, however updates should 
be the least! of your worries.

  Chris.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Shawn Krasniuk
    To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:13 PM
    Subject: Re: el capitan


    Wouldn't downloading El Capitan through Torrent void any software updates 
it may have in the future?


    Shawn
    Sent from my White MacBook






      On Jun 13, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Shaf <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:


      No, but you can torrent the current beta from your favorite site for free.


      On 6/13/2015 9:59 PM, Krysti .Power wrote:

        Does anyone know the release date for the public beta 
        On Jun 8, 2015 8:32 PM, <sadamahmed1...@gmail.com> wrote:

          Hi Ricardo, 


          Thanks for confirming. 


          Looking forward to downloading. 


          Regards, 

          Sadam Ahmed 


          Sent from my iPhone 


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          On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:58 am, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


            Hello,

            They will be available in the public beta program in July.

            hth

              On Jun 8, 2015, at 6:49 PM, sadam ahmed 
<sadamahmed1...@gmail.com> wrote:



              Is iOS 9 and the next version of OS X available to download as 
part of the public beta program? 



              Totally missed the stream. 



              It was being streamed at some disgusting time like  3 AM in 
Australia. 



              Sadam Ahmed 



              Certificate IV in International Trade 



              Vocational College of Business 



              RMIT University 



              LinkedIn: 



              https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ 



              
https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/
 



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                On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:43 am, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> 
wrote:



                I just found something out which maybe Apple might fix. I found 
out that Alex doesn't know how to say El Capitan properly lol. But getting back 
on topic, glad to know that I'll be able to use it on this thing. I missed WWDC 
today so did they say when the public will be able to beta test it? I know we 
get the beta for iOS 9in July but what about El Capitan?



                Shawn

                Sent from my White MacBook







                  On Jun 8, 2015, at 4:48 PM, gs <geoffsli...@gmail.com> wrote:



                  The way I understood the situation is that iOS 9 and El 
Capitan will work on all hardware supported by iOS 8 and Yosemite.



                  On Jun 8, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk 
<bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:



                  Wouldn't we beta testers get permission to download the El 
Capitan beta automatically? That's really not my main concern, my main concern 
is will I be able to run it on my mid 2010 white MacBook? From what I heard on 
Twitter, it sounds like El Capitan has an advanced graphics engine or something 
like that. So is this the end of the line for me? Yosemite I mean.



                  Shawn

                  Sent from my White MacBook







                    On Jun 8, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
<dionip...@gmail.com> wrote:



                    ok, thanks, i'll just have to wait to request again. :)

                      On 08 Jun 2015, at 10:28 pm, Daniel 
<topdog2...@gmail.com> wrote:



                      Probably so. Not a hundred percent sure.



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