Hello, it was worse in the past, i used to scan to wordpad with omnipage and do batch after batch (although i did save in between after a few hard lessons) after a few sessions (so a few times 25 pages) omnipage used to really screw up and I had to restart the machine. What scanner did you use again? I think I remember something about a fujitsu? I yhave a hp 5590 but I am thinking about switching to an 8300 8200 or 7650 (if the government wants to pay for it) I dont neccessarily want a book scanner (because sometimes I have to scan articles) but I DO want a scanner that scans both sides of a page at the SEEM time. Greetings, Anouk, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Goodin" <goodi...@msu.edu> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:53 PM Subject: Re: scanning wasRe: my 2 months with a mac
> > Oh, I don't really mind it that much, but that's only because I've > pretty much got it down to an automated process. I can get up to 75 > pages in my adf, and rarely do I have jajperjams. I think if I had > the troubles you describe I'd go crazy! :) > Cheers, > Donna > On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:42 AM, a radix wrote: > >> >> Hello, I find scanning to be q nightmare quite frankly and will be >> happy if >> I will be done with it after uni, but then I dont have a real >> bookscanner >> just a scanner with adf, you put 25 pages in at once and repeat that >> till >> the book is done, i cant count the amount of paper jams I have had >> with that >> thing and it isnt that fast either, it mechanically turns the pages >> to scan >> both sides. Also, omnipage often is not the most stable program either >> although with version 16 its better then before, although I cant scan >> directly to word anymore i now scan to a file. But, it gets the job >> done.... >> Yes, for my bachelor essay I also bought a lot of books that I had >> to scan, >> law books are rather costly here too! >> Greetings, Anouk, >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Donna Goodin" <goodi...@msu.edu> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:32 PM >> Subject: Re: scanning wasRe: my 2 months with a mac >> >> >>> >>> Hi Anouk, >>> >>> Oh, here in the U.S. there are many of us who are power scanners. I >>> have two master's degrees and a Ph.D and I would never have been able >>> to get those degrees if I couldn't scan my own materials. At the >>> university where I got my Ph.D they actually have an office that >>> scans >>> books for students, but because almost all my materials were in >>> Spanish, they wanted four months to prepare a book. Needless to >>> say I >>> never had that kind of lead time, though they did scan some of the >>> materials for my comps. While I was working on my Ph.D. I'm sure I >>> scanned in excess of one book a day, and often much more than that. >>> Needless to say, I don't miss those days! :) >>> >>> Now I just like to read a lot. And when I hear about a book I want >>> to >>> read, I'm not patient enough to wait around and see if someone makes >>> it available. I use both bookshare and our web-braille service >>> through the library of Congress, but even so I still scan a lot. >>> During my student days I invested in a high-end scanner with a good >>> document feeder. So, on my PC, I can just set the pages in and let >>> them go, and a half hour or so later I have a book. I don't have a >>> lot of time to proof read, so I want to stick with a program I know >>> will do a good job on the OCR. So, for me, until there's a pretty >>> sure- >>> fire option available on the Mac, I'll continue to use my PC. >>> >>> I really was surprised that Omnipage didn't have a Mac version. It's >>> such a widely-used program, I would have thought that would have >>> happened long ago. My guess is ABYY's probably our best bet, since >>> they've already made the lite version available. >>> >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> On Oct 22, 2009, at 3:49 AM, a radix wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Donna Funny that I am not the only person who relies heavily on >>>> scanning >>>> (in my country not all that many people do, many of them just rely >>>> on >>>> organisations for the blind to get their scanning done but that >>>> takes too >>>> long for me). At uni you only know 2 weeks forward what books you >>>> will need >>>> for a certain course so my only option is to scan it myself. I know >>>> some >>>> people have ties with publishers and are able to get books in pdf >>>> format but >>>> I am not so lucky. As you know my experience with mac scanning is >>>> rather >>>> limited but I am not actually SURE if you HAVE to use vuescan AND >>>> readiris >>>> to get the job done, I guess if you install the drivers for your >>>> scanner >>>> just readiris will do the job... I am just not sure about the >>>> quality of >>>> readiris in comparison with omnipage 16 pro especially if you want >>>> to scan >>>> 25 pages at once and do not want to proofread afterwards. But thats >>>> just me >>>> being squemish i guess.... I am just still really hoping that abbyy >>>> will >>>> release their full product for the mac. >>>> Greetings, Anouk, >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Donna Goodin" <goodi...@msu.edu> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:17 PM >>>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I Thought I'd weigh in here, since I got my Mac around the same >>>>> time >>>>> almost, I'm going on three months now. >>>>> >>>>> I agree with Anouk, and would add that I often find it's easier to >>>>> use my PC for work-related tasks. As I mentioned earlier, I use >>>>> the >>>>> ap Blackboard, which I have to use Windows for, as Safari isn't >>>>> currently supported.. Since I'm logged into Blackboard most days, >>>>> that >>>>> sort of automatically means I'm using my PC, and the Mac gets >>>>> relegated to after-hours. >>>>> >>>>> I also still strongly prefer web-browsing on my PC. I've had so >>>>> many >>>>> experiences where on the Mac I simply cannot locate an item that I >>>>> know is on a certain page. This never happens to me on the PC. I >>>>> find >>>>> that when browsing, I can do things in half the time on my PC, and >>>>> sometimes on the Mac, even after spending the extra time, I don't >>>>> find >>>>> what I'm looking for, and end up going back to the PC anyway. >>>>> >>>>> I'm an avid reader, and so do a lot of scanning. I really don't >>>>> like >>>>> the idea of having to use two separate programs, one for scanning >>>>> and >>>>> one for the OCR, especially when I have one program on my PC that >>>>> will >>>>> do both jobs quite nicely. This of course isn't an Apple issue, >>>>> but I >>>>> do think that for many of us who are blind, the lack of a good >>>>> solid >>>>> scanning/ocr option, is a real obstacle in terms of seeing the >>>>> Mac as >>>>> a PC replacement. >>>>> >>>>> Like Anouk, I've also pretty much decided to keep both a Mac and a >>>>> PC. at least for now, though I confess I'm tempted some days to >>>>> just >>>>> go back to my PC, in the interest of running just one OS on one >>>>> computer. When I got my Mac, I had hoped not to upgrade to JAWS 11 >>>>> and Windows 7, but it looks like I'll be getting both. I use my PC >>>>> for >>>>> work, for scanning, and for most of my web browsing, which is 90% >>>>> of >>>>> what I do. I like the Mac a lot. I like that VO is built in, I >>>>> like >>>>> the speed and responsiveness of the Mac, I like the fact that it >>>>> doesn't take a year to boot or load an ap, and I like working with >>>>> Itunes (I'm still running 8.2.), and I think the Mac seems to be >>>>> far >>>>> superior in how it works with Media. But the PC is what I go to for >>>>> the things I really need to get done. I think for me, my experience >>>>> with the Mac reflects my experience with the iphone. When I >>>>> compare >>>>> my iphone with my old Windows Mobile phone, the iphone is much more >>>>> fun! I love the aps, the games, the ability to quickly do things >>>>> like >>>>> check weather, whereas my WM phone was loaded with all kinds of >>>>> practical stuff for editing documents spreadsheets, powerpoint, and >>>>> so >>>>> on. I don't want to do any of that stuff on my phone, so for me, >>>>> the >>>>> iphone is by far the better fit. but when it comes to a >>>>> computer, it >>>>> cuts the other way, and I find myself favoring the PC which seems >>>>> to >>>>> lend itself more to the day-to-day things I need to get done. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Donna >>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:05 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi again folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, broadcasts can certainly be done. Nicecast from Rogue Amoeba >>>>>> http://rogueamoeba.com >>>>>> works extremely well. The only issue seems to be the effects >>>>>> scroll >>>>>> area, but I hope they'll be working on that. Otherwise, it works >>>>>> ridiculously well, in fact, and I have nothing to complain about. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not exactly sure about your Thumbkey thing. I don't get it. If >>>>>> you >>>>>> can elaborate? Maybe I'm being dense here. :). >>>>>> >>>>>> As for VLC, I've never actually tried it out, and I personally >>>>>> love >>>>>> using Safari for web browsing. For me, everything is much faster. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, which braille display are you using? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Nic >>>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>>> My Twitter >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi again. >>>>>>> Wow. Echomac, never heard of it but when I google it I found >>>>>>> http://echomac.sourceforge.net/ >>>>>>> I'll try it when I'm back home from work. >>>>>>> Anouk, I had a fire dtv reciever and used it with dvb viewer on >>>>>>> windows and Eye tv have driver for it so I gave it a try but it >>>>>>> doesn't work as I want at the moment. >>>>>>> I have readiris on the disk and I'm going to try it out and see >>>>>>> how >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> works with swedish language and so on. >>>>>>> I have heard of some broadcast tools for mac but at the moment I >>>>>>> haven't looked in to it. I don't broadcast at the moment so it >>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>> have so high priority. I still have my studio pc sitting under >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> desk so I can use stationplaylist and all the broadcast stuff >>>>>>> if I >>>>>>> want to. >>>>>>> Regards Tony >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <anou...@home.nl>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey Tony, Nice to hear from you! (the world is a small place) >>>>>>>> Funny >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> started our mac journey at the seem time. I am curious, can you >>>>>>>> broadcast on >>>>>>>> the mac? I guess otsjuke wont work and obiously shoutcast wont >>>>>>>> either. I was >>>>>>>> thinking of running windows with vmware but now I am just >>>>>>>> thinking >>>>>>>> to ask my >>>>>>>> brother to help me install windows 7 via bootcamp instead. Has >>>>>>>> anyone got >>>>>>>> experience with installing windows via bootcamp as dual boot? Is >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> diffucult? I presume the drivers for windows 7 for the macbook >>>>>>>> pro >>>>>>>> will be >>>>>>>> available from apple? I still want to try vuescan an >>>>>>>> dreadiris, in >>>>>>>> fact i >>>>>>>> have the programs on my computer bu tI want to wait till hp >>>>>>>> releases the >>>>>>>> drivers for my scanner that are native to sl, also I hope by >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> time abbyy >>>>>>>> will have released a demo of finereader for the mac that is >>>>>>>> native >>>>>>>> to sl. I >>>>>>>> am just concerned that either adf wont work, scanning iwll be >>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>> slow or >>>>>>>> dutch character recognition wont be as good as omnipage. >>>>>>>> I am surprised that you also have the thumbkey problem, i >>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>> it was >>>>>>>> something stupid on my part, corrupt install whatever. I guess >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> will both >>>>>>>> have to mail apple accessibility about this. >>>>>>>> So, you are using a tv tuner with your mac? This is the next >>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>> i want to >>>>>>>> taccle since now I have an analog tv standing on my desk and >>>>>>>> it is >>>>>>>> taking up >>>>>>>> space that I could use otherwise. I did have digital tv in the >>>>>>>> past >>>>>>>> bu tI >>>>>>>> had a lot of trouble with it and in the end just went back to >>>>>>>> analog. There >>>>>>>> are not that many tuners for the mac I think (analog or >>>>>>>> otherwise) >>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>> guess even less that are available in Europe. Which do you >>>>>>>> use? I >>>>>>>> guess as >>>>>>>> long as I get one with a remote things will be ok (if it indeed >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> find the >>>>>>>> channels). >>>>>>>> I too LOVE the sleep features of the mac, i never turn mine off, >>>>>>>> just close >>>>>>>> the lid and thats it. >>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk, >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Tony Bernedal" <t...@bernedal.net> >>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:16 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Anouk. >>>>>>>>> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I >>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the >>>>>>>>> scanning >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to >>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from >>>>>>>>> a no >>>>>>>>> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a >>>>>>>>> virtual >>>>>>>>> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the >>>>>>>>> virtual >>>>>>>>> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich >>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the >>>>>>>>> software >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows >>>>>>>>> programs. >>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow >>>>>>>>> leopard my >>>>>>>>> problems with it is gone. >>>>>>>>> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be >>>>>>>>> solved. I >>>>>>>>> have same issue with alva satelite. >>>>>>>>> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd >>>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>>> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is >>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it >>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at >>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >>>>>>>>> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works >>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> sleep >>>>>>>>> works well too. >>>>>>>>> So I'm happy with my mac system. >>>>>>>>> Good luck with your mac! >>>>>>>>> Regards Tony >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <anou...@home.nl>: >>>>>>>>>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now >>>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>>> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain >>>>>>>>>> below >>>>>>>>>> why. In >>>>>>>>>> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive >>>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>>> after >>>>>>>>>> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as >>>>>>>>>> well as >>>>>>>>>> on my >>>>>>>>>> pc. >>>>>>>>>> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead >>>>>>>>>> watching >>>>>>>>>> movies >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples >>>>>>>>>> office suite >>>>>>>>>> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text >>>>>>>>>> editors/office >>>>>>>>>> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use >>>>>>>>>> garage band >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha >>>>>>>>>> keyboard. I >>>>>>>>>> like the >>>>>>>>>> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening through >>>>>>>>>> its sound >>>>>>>>>> output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I still >>>>>>>>>> find using >>>>>>>>>> the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while using >>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>> pc and >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice that I >>>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>>> endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to >>>>>>>>>> continue >>>>>>>>>> reading, >>>>>>>>>> eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal >>>>>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>>>>>> if I >>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>> to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if you >>>>>>>>>> need to >>>>>>>>>> read >>>>>>>>>> long documents. >>>>>>>>>> At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have >>>>>>>>>> gotten mail >>>>>>>>>> working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16 >>>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> scan my books for school, while I know that there are some >>>>>>>>>> scanning >>>>>>>>>> solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp >>>>>>>>>> drivers for >>>>>>>>>> sl >>>>>>>>>> have been released I just dont know if they will be as good >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> easy as >>>>>>>>>> using omnipage pro 16 and am a bit hesistant to try it because >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> that (I >>>>>>>>>> really really hope that a full version of finereader will >>>>>>>>>> eventually be >>>>>>>>>> released for the mac since I have heard it can rival omnipage >>>>>>>>>> pro). >>>>>>>>>> Secondly there is filesharing, i will be brief. Ftp does >>>>>>>>>> work on >>>>>>>>>> the mac >>>>>>>>>> with transmit which I rather like although I have not >>>>>>>>>> registered >>>>>>>>>> it yet, >>>>>>>>>> questions i asked its support team went unanswered. Usenet >>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>> works but >>>>>>>>>> udner windows I preferred to use other programs which are not >>>>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> the mac. >>>>>>>>>> The third point is playing games which I do a lot on the pec >>>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>>> interactive fiction and muds. There is an interpreter for >>>>>>>>>> interactive >>>>>>>>>> fiction called zoom which I tried and although I can open >>>>>>>>>> games >>>>>>>>>> with it >>>>>>>>>> saved games were a problem for me since I could not open a >>>>>>>>>> saved >>>>>>>>>> game >>>>>>>>>> file >>>>>>>>>> (made in frotz). >>>>>>>>>> For muds the situation on the mac is not so good, I play them >>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>> on windows but there is only one mudclient that I know of >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>>> sl and which is still being developed, jamochamud which works >>>>>>>>>> under java. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>> is not too accessible at the moment but the programmer has >>>>>>>>>> promised to >>>>>>>>>> look >>>>>>>>>> at it, still it does not offer all the features even then >>>>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>>>> am used >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> on a windows client. >>>>>>>>>> As soon as windows 7 becomes officially available I am >>>>>>>>>> planning to >>>>>>>>>> install >>>>>>>>>> it on my mac (probbably via bootcamp) so that I at least can >>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>> my mac >>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>> the time even if I need to use windows, hopefully for the >>>>>>>>>> scanning and >>>>>>>>>> downloading tasks I will in the future be able to use the mac >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> I have >>>>>>>>>> hopes for muds as well but for now at least my mac is mostly >>>>>>>>>> used >>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>>> and in the library. >>>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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