Hi,

I got it to work fine. You just need to experiment when you download  
the file to find the right buttons. I experienced something strange,  
though. Once I clicked cancel by mistake when it asked me if I wanted  
to continue and launched it. OK and Cancel were not labeled, but when  
it canceled and I reopened, they were both labeled.

Regards,
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On Oct 23, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:

>
> Tiger is even more of a disaster.  Am on the world conecter now, but
> it's not accepting input, just saying "java busy.Have been at this
> for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would
> have me killed 20 times over.
> "
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>>
>> the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont
>> know what to click
>>
>> On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Anouk,
>>>
>>> I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while
>>> back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility  
>>> features.
>>> If folks are willing to give me feedback such as "this works, this
>>> doesn't work", "I can't add a character" or specific items like
>>> that I
>>> can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> You should be able to try the new version straight from your web
>>> browser
>>> by using the WebStart option ( at
>>> http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ).
>>>
>>> I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> a radix wrote:
>>>> Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud
>>>> client for
>>>> the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the
>>>> features we
>>>> come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind
>>>> having to
>>>> pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in
>>>> cocoa
>>>> that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech
>>>> guy in
>>>> the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I
>>>> know at
>>>> least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the
>>>> mac and I
>>>> am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I
>>>> cant
>>>> imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds
>>>> either....
>>>> Greetings, Anouk
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Nicolai Svendsen" <chojiro1...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely quite an interesting story.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I
>>>>> went to
>>>>> an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it
>>>>> out.
>>>>> I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an  
>>>>> institute
>>>>> for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was
>>>>> quite
>>>>> literally a pile of crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have
>>>>> done
>>>>> for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally
>>>>> decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely
>>>>> frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always
>>>>> been
>>>>> my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how
>>>>> many
>>>>> things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you
>>>>> had
>>>>> to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously  
>>>>> installed
>>>>> applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The
>>>>> headache.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I decided to take the plunge.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went
>>>>> back
>>>>> to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd
>>>>> mostly
>>>>> be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try  
>>>>> it
>>>>> out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It  
>>>>> definitely
>>>>> was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a
>>>>> showroom
>>>>> floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off
>>>>> thoroughly,
>>>>> wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was
>>>>> happy. So
>>>>> very happy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I
>>>>> almost
>>>>> rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my
>>>>> shiny Macbook and hook it up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh no!
>>>>>
>>>>> What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't
>>>>> care. I
>>>>> didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to
>>>>> advertise. So
>>>>> i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the
>>>>> installation
>>>>> DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It
>>>>> displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided
>>>>> that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the
>>>>> installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang
>>>>> it!
>>>>> Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to
>>>>> proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a
>>>>> password
>>>>> at login.
>>>>>
>>>>> I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them
>>>>> the
>>>>> C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they
>>>>> promptly
>>>>> complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to enter,
>>>>> and
>>>>> I did.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The name or password you entered is incorrect."
>>>>>
>>>>> I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most annoying
>>>>> of
>>>>> all was that finally, the C-key actually seemed to work. I was
>>>>> installing it when I got home. By this point, I was like a kid on
>>>>> his
>>>>> birthday.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought I'd share my experience with all of you on the list.
>>>>> Yes, I
>>>>> am aware it's probably quite long-winded. But what can you do? I  
>>>>> do
>>>>> run Windows as a virtual machine, but only to MUD. I do sometimes
>>>>> find
>>>>> it kind of annoying having to run two programs just to scan and
>>>>> recognize the image. That is why I liked Omnipage, and there has
>>>>> to be
>>>>> a solution out there that does exactly the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for my web browsing experience, everything is much more smooth
>>>>> and
>>>>> responsive. I can easily find what I want by using the search
>>>>> feature
>>>>> in VoiceOver, and ever since Leopard was released the web rotor
>>>>> makes
>>>>> it even easier, not to mention Auto web spots. So yes, I do use
>>>>> Windows. Rarely, but I do. And I'm definitely not ashamed to admit
>>>>> it.
>>>>> But if a MUD client was accessible to VoiceOver, I would not touch
>>>>> it
>>>>> again. I've found my experience with Mac has not only been
>>>>> productive,
>>>>> but fun and enjoyable where as with Windows, I wanted to throw the
>>>>> machine through the window half the time I was using it due to
>>>>> freezes, driver errors and so-forth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I think I'm done now. I want an iPhone, now that you mention
>>>>> it,
>>>>> but at the same time you don't always need to have the latest and
>>>>> greatest. And I need to realize that. :P. Yes, I loved the iPhone
>>>>> and
>>>>> I'm used to the gestures since I use my trackpad quite a lot,
>>>>> but at
>>>>> the same time, I need a phone for text messaging and phone calls.
>>>>> That
>>>>> is about it. It'll probably be faster to accomplish those tasks
>>>>> with
>>>>> the iPhone, I have no doubt about it. Maybe one day I'll even get
>>>>> one.
>>>>> But when I find a really good reason except for all the apps you
>>>>> can
>>>>> seemingly install with no issues, perfectly usable, then I won't
>>>>> buy
>>>>> one. Besides, who wants to pay $99.95 for an iPhone plan in
>>>>> Denmark?
>>>>> Not me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a great afternoon, folks. I at least know those living in the
>>>>> Eastern timezone are approaching lunch time. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Nic
>>>>> Skype: Kvalme
>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>>>>> AIM: cincinster
>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>>>> Facebook Profile
>>>>> My Twitter
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I Thought I'd weigh in here, since I got my Mac around the same
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> almost, I'm going on three months now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Anouk, and would add that I often find it's easier  
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> use my PC for work-related tasks.  As I mentioned earlier, I use
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ap Blackboard, which I have to use Windows for, as Safari isn't
>>>>>> currently supported.. Since I'm logged into Blackboard most days,
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> sort of automatically means I'm using my PC, and the Mac gets
>>>>>> relegated to after-hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also still strongly prefer web-browsing on my PC.  I've had so
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> experiences where on the Mac I simply cannot locate an item  
>>>>>> that I
>>>>>> know is on a certain page.  This never happens to me on the PC. I
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> that when browsing, I can do things in half the time on my PC,  
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> sometimes on the Mac, even after spending the extra time, I don't
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> what I'm looking for, and end up going back to the PC anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm an avid reader, and so do a lot of scanning. I really don't
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> the idea of having to use two separate programs, one for scanning
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> one for the OCR, especially when I have one program on my PC that
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> do both jobs quite nicely.  This of course isn't an Apple issue,
>>>>>> but I
>>>>>> do think that for many of us who are blind, the lack of a good
>>>>>> solid
>>>>>> scanning/ocr option, is a real obstacle in terms of seeing the
>>>>>> Mac as
>>>>>> a PC replacement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like Anouk, I've also pretty much decided to keep both a Mac  
>>>>>> and a
>>>>>> PC.  at least for now, though I confess I'm tempted some days to
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> go back to my PC, in the interest of running just one OS on one
>>>>>> computer.  When I got my Mac, I had hoped not to upgrade to
>>>>>> JAWS 11
>>>>>> and Windows 7, but it looks like I'll be getting both. I use my
>>>>>> PC for
>>>>>> work, for scanning, and for most of my web browsing, which is 90%
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> what I do.  I like the Mac a lot.  I like that VO is built in, I
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> the speed and responsiveness of the Mac, I like the fact that it
>>>>>> doesn't take a year to boot or load an ap, and I like working  
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> Itunes (I'm still running 8.2.), and I think the Mac seems to be
>>>>>> far
>>>>>> superior in how it works with Media. But the PC is what I go to
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the things I really need to get done. I think for me, my
>>>>>> experience
>>>>>> with the Mac reflects my experience with the iphone.  When I
>>>>>> compare
>>>>>> my iphone with my old Windows Mobile phone, the iphone is much
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> fun! I love the aps, the games, the ability to quickly do things
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> check weather, whereas my WM phone was loaded with all kinds of
>>>>>> practical stuff for editing documents spreadsheets, powerpoint,
>>>>>> and so
>>>>>> on.  I don't want to do any of that stuff on my phone, so for me,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> iphone is by far the better fit.  but when it comes to a
>>>>>> computer, it
>>>>>> cuts the other way, and I find myself favoring the PC which seems
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> lend itself more to the day-to-day things I need to get done.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:05 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi again folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, broadcasts can certainly be done. Nicecast from Rogue  
>>>>>>> Amoeba
>>>>>>> http://rogueamoeba.com
>>>>>>> works extremely well. The only issue seems to be the effects
>>>>>>> scroll
>>>>>>> area, but I hope they'll be working on that. Otherwise, it works
>>>>>>> ridiculously well, in fact, and I have nothing to complain  
>>>>>>> about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not exactly sure about your Thumbkey thing. I don't get
>>>>>>> it. If
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> can elaborate? Maybe I'm being dense here. :).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for VLC, I've never actually tried it out, and I personally
>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>> using Safari for web browsing. For me,  everything is much
>>>>>>> faster.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, which braille display are you using?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Nic
>>>>>>> Skype: Kvalme
>>>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>>>>>>> AIM: cincinster
>>>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>>>>>> Facebook Profile
>>>>>>> My Twitter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>>>>> Wow. Echomac, never heard of it but when I google it I found
>>>>>>>> http://echomac.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>> I'll try it when I'm back home from work.
>>>>>>>> Anouk, I had a fire dtv reciever and used it with dvb viewer on
>>>>>>>> windows and Eye tv have driver for it so I gave it a try but it
>>>>>>>> doesn't work as I want at the moment.
>>>>>>>> I have readiris on the disk and I'm going to try it out and see
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> works with swedish language and so on.
>>>>>>>> I have heard of some broadcast tools for mac but at the  
>>>>>>>> moment I
>>>>>>>> haven't looked in to it. I don't broadcast at the moment so it
>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>> have so high priority. I still have my studio pc sitting under
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> desk so I can use stationplaylist and all the broadcast stuff
>>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>>> want to.
>>>>>>>> Regards Tony
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <anou...@home.nl>:
>>>>>>>>> Hey Tony, Nice to hear from you! (the world is a small place)
>>>>>>>>> Funny
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> started our mac journey at the seem time. I am curious, can  
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> broadcast on
>>>>>>>>> the mac? I guess otsjuke wont work and obiously shoutcast wont
>>>>>>>>> either. I was
>>>>>>>>> thinking of running windows with vmware but now I am just
>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>> to ask my
>>>>>>>>> brother to help me install windows 7 via bootcamp instead. Has
>>>>>>>>> anyone got
>>>>>>>>> experience with installing windows via bootcamp as dual boot?
>>>>>>>>> Is it
>>>>>>>>> diffucult? I presume the drivers for windows 7 for the macbook
>>>>>>>>> pro
>>>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>>>> available from apple? I still want to try vuescan an
>>>>>>>>> dreadiris, in
>>>>>>>>> fact i
>>>>>>>>> have the programs on my computer bu tI want to wait till hp
>>>>>>>>> releases the
>>>>>>>>> drivers for my scanner that are native to sl, also I hope by
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> time abbyy
>>>>>>>>> will have released a demo of finereader for the mac that is
>>>>>>>>> native
>>>>>>>>> to sl. I
>>>>>>>>> am just concerned that either adf wont work, scanning iwll be
>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>> slow or
>>>>>>>>> dutch character recognition wont be as good as omnipage.
>>>>>>>>> I am surprised that you also have the thumbkey problem, i
>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>>>> something stupid on my part, corrupt install whatever. I guess
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> will both
>>>>>>>>> have to mail apple accessibility about this.
>>>>>>>>> So, you are using a tv tuner with your mac? This is the next
>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>> i want to
>>>>>>>>> taccle since now I have an analog tv standing on my desk and
>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>> taking up
>>>>>>>>> space that I could use otherwise. I did have digital tv in the
>>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>>> bu tI
>>>>>>>>> had a lot of trouble with it and in the end just went back to
>>>>>>>>> analog. There
>>>>>>>>> are not that many tuners for the mac I think (analog or
>>>>>>>>> otherwise)
>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>> guess even less that are available in Europe. Which do you
>>>>>>>>> use? I
>>>>>>>>> guess as
>>>>>>>>> long as I get one with a remote things will be ok (if it
>>>>>>>>> indeed can
>>>>>>>>> find the
>>>>>>>>> channels).
>>>>>>>>> I too LOVE the sleep features of the mac, i never turn mine
>>>>>>>>> off,
>>>>>>>>> just close
>>>>>>>>> the lid and thats it.
>>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Tony Bernedal" <t...@bernedal.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:16 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anouk.
>>>>>>>>>> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like
>>>>>>>>>> you I
>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the
>>>>>>>>>> scanning
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have
>>>>>>>>>> to do
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from
>>>>>>>>>> a no
>>>>>>>>>> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a
>>>>>>>>>> virtual
>>>>>>>>>> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the
>>>>>>>>>> virtual
>>>>>>>>>> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich
>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the
>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows
>>>>>>>>>> programs.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow
>>>>>>>>>> leopard my
>>>>>>>>>> problems with it is gone.
>>>>>>>>>> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be
>>>>>>>>>> solved. I
>>>>>>>>>> have same issue with alva satelite.
>>>>>>>>>> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd
>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies
>>>>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux
>>>>>>>>>> at all
>>>>>>>>>> with screenreader, only on mac, great!).
>>>>>>>>>> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at
>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And,
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> sleep
>>>>>>>>>> works well too.
>>>>>>>>>> So I'm happy with my mac system.
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with your mac!
>>>>>>>>>> Regards Tony
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <anou...@home.nl>:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now
>>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>>> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain
>>>>>>>>>>> below
>>>>>>>>>>> why. In
>>>>>>>>>>> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive
>>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as
>>>>>>>>>>> well as
>>>>>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>>>>>> pc.
>>>>>>>>>>> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead
>>>>>>>>>>> watching
>>>>>>>>>>> movies
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples
>>>>>>>>>>> office suite
>>>>>>>>>>> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text
>>>>>>>>>>> editors/office
>>>>>>>>>>> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use
>>>>>>>>>>> garage band
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha
>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. I
>>>>>>>>>>> like the
>>>>>>>>>>> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening
>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>> its sound
>>>>>>>>>>> output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I
>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>> find using
>>>>>>>>>>> the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while
>>>>>>>>>>> using my
>>>>>>>>>>> pc and
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice
>>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>>> endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to
>>>>>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>>>>> reading,
>>>>>>>>>>> eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal
>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>> to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if  
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>>> long documents.
>>>>>>>>>>> At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have
>>>>>>>>>>> gotten mail
>>>>>>>>>>> working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16
>>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> scan my books for school, while I know that there are some
>>>>>>>>>>> scanning
>>>>>>>>>>> solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp
>>>>>>>>>>> drivers for
>>>>>>>>>>> sl
>>>>>>>>>>> have been released I just dont know if they will be as good
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> easy as
>>>>>>>>>>> using omnipage pro 16 and am a bit hesistant to try it
>>>>>>>>>>> because of
>>>>>>>>>>> that (I
>>>>>>>>>>> really really hope that a full version of finereader will
>>>>>>>>>>> eventually be
>>>>>>>>>>> released for the mac since I have heard it can rival  
>>>>>>>>>>> omnipage
>>>>>>>>>>> pro).
>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly there is filesharing, i will be brief. Ftp does
>>>>>>>>>>> work on
>>>>>>>>>>> the mac
>>>>>>>>>>> with transmit which I rather like although I have not
>>>>>>>>>>> registered
>>>>>>>>>>> it yet,
>>>>>>>>>>> questions i asked its support team went unanswered. Usenet
>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>> works but
>>>>>>>>>>> udner windows I preferred to use other programs which are  
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> the mac.
>>>>>>>>>>> The third point is playing games which I do a lot on the pec
>>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>>> interactive fiction and muds. There is an interpreter for
>>>>>>>>>>> interactive
>>>>>>>>>>> fiction called zoom which I tried and although I can open
>>>>>>>>>>> games
>>>>>>>>>>> with it
>>>>>>>>>>> saved games were a problem for me since I could not open a
>>>>>>>>>>> saved
>>>>>>>>>>> game
>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>> (made in frotz).
>>>>>>>>>>> For muds the situation on the mac is not so good, I play
>>>>>>>>>>> them all
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> on windows but there is only one mudclient that I know of
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>>> sl and which is still being developed, jamochamud which  
>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>> under java.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>> is not too accessible at the moment but the programmer has
>>>>>>>>>>> promised to
>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>> at it, still it does not offer all the features even then
>>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>>> am used
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> on a windows client.
>>>>>>>>>>> As soon as windows 7 becomes officially available I am
>>>>>>>>>>> planning
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>>>>> it on my mac (probbably via bootcamp) so that I at least can
>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>> my mac
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> the time even if I need to use windows, hopefully for the
>>>>>>>>>>> scanning and
>>>>>>>>>>> downloading tasks I will in the future be able to use the
>>>>>>>>>>> mac and
>>>>>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>>>>>> hopes for muds as well but for now at least my mac is mostly
>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>>> and in the library.
>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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