Hi Anouk,

My scanner is a Fujitsu FI-4220-.  However, I bought this back in  
2002, so I'm sure there's a much more current model.  It's been a  
great scanner.  It's fast, rarely jams, has a good document feeder,  
and has been a real work-horse for me.
Best,
Donna
On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:57 AM, a radix wrote:

>
> Hello, it was worse in the past, i used to scan to wordpad with  
> omnipage and
> do batch after batch (although i did save in between after a few hard
> lessons) after a few sessions (so a few times 25 pages) omnipage  
> used to
> really screw up and I had to restart the machine.
> What scanner did you use again? I think I remember something about a
> fujitsu? I yhave a hp 5590 but I am thinking about switching to an  
> 8300 8200
> or 7650 (if the government wants to pay for it) I dont neccessarily  
> want a
> book scanner (because sometimes I have to scan articles) but I DO  
> want a
> scanner that scans both sides of a page at the SEEM time.
> Greetings, Anouk,
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donna Goodin" <goodi...@msu.edu>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: scanning wasRe: my 2 months with a mac
>
>
>>
>> Oh, I don't really mind it that much, but that's only because I've
>> pretty much got it down to an automated process. I can get up to 75
>> pages in my adf, and rarely do I have jajperjams.  I think if I had
>> the troubles you describe I'd go crazy! :)
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:42 AM, a radix wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello, I find scanning to be q nightmare quite frankly and will be
>>> happy if
>>> I will be done with it after uni, but then I dont have a real
>>> bookscanner
>>> just a scanner with adf, you put 25 pages in at once and repeat that
>>> till
>>> the book is done, i cant count the amount of paper jams I have had
>>> with that
>>> thing and it isnt that fast either, it mechanically turns the pages
>>> to scan
>>> both sides. Also, omnipage often is not the most stable program  
>>> either
>>> although with version 16 its better then before, although I cant  
>>> scan
>>> directly to word anymore i now scan to a file. But, it gets the job
>>> done....
>>> Yes, for my bachelor essay I also bought a lot of books that I had
>>> to scan,
>>> law books are rather costly here too!
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Donna Goodin" <goodi...@msu.edu>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: scanning wasRe: my 2 months with a mac
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Anouk,
>>>>
>>>> Oh, here in the U.S. there are many of us who are power  
>>>> scanners.  I
>>>> have two master's degrees and a Ph.D and I would never have been  
>>>> able
>>>> to get those degrees if I couldn't scan my own materials.  At the
>>>> university where I got my Ph.D they actually have an office that
>>>> scans
>>>> books for students, but because almost all my materials were in
>>>> Spanish, they wanted four months to prepare a book.  Needless to
>>>> say I
>>>> never had that kind of lead time, though they did scan some of the
>>>> materials for my comps. While I was working on my Ph.D. I'm sure I
>>>> scanned in excess of one book a day, and often much more than that.
>>>> Needless to say, I don't miss those days! :)
>>>>
>>>> Now I just like to read a lot.  And when I hear about a book I want
>>>> to
>>>> read, I'm not patient enough to wait around and see if someone  
>>>> makes
>>>> it available.  I use both bookshare and our web-braille service
>>>> through the library of Congress, but even so I still scan a lot.
>>>> During my student days I invested in a high-end scanner with a good
>>>> document feeder.  So, on my PC, I can just set the pages in and let
>>>> them go, and a half hour or so later I have a book.  I don't have a
>>>> lot of time to proof read, so I want to stick with a program I know
>>>> will do a good job on the OCR. So, for me, until there's a pretty
>>>> sure-
>>>> fire option available on the Mac, I'll continue to use my PC.
>>>>
>>>> I really was surprised that Omnipage didn't have a Mac version.   
>>>> It's
>>>> such a widely-used program, I would have thought that would have
>>>> happened long ago. My guess is ABYY's probably our best bet, since
>>>> they've already made the lite version available.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Donna
>>>> On Oct 22, 2009, at 3:49 AM, a radix wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Donna Funny that I am not the only person who relies heavily on
>>>>> scanning
>>>>> (in my country not all that many people do, many of them just rely
>>>>> on
>>>>> organisations for the blind to get their scanning done but that
>>>>> takes too
>>>>> long for me). At uni you only know 2 weeks forward what books you
>>>>> will need
>>>>> for a certain course so my only option is to scan it myself. I  
>>>>> know
>>>>> some
>>>>> people have ties with publishers and are able to get books in pdf
>>>>> format but
>>>>> I am not so lucky. As you know my experience with mac scanning is
>>>>> rather
>>>>> limited but I am not actually SURE if you HAVE to use vuescan AND
>>>>> readiris
>>>>> to get the job done, I guess if you install the drivers for your
>>>>> scanner
>>>>> just readiris will do the job... I am just not sure about the
>>>>> quality of
>>>>> readiris in comparison with omnipage 16 pro especially if you want
>>>>> to scan
>>>>> 25 pages at once and do not want to proofread afterwards. But  
>>>>> thats
>>>>> just me
>>>>> being squemish i guess.... I am just still really hoping that  
>>>>> abbyy
>>>>> will
>>>>> release their full product for the mac.
>>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Donna Goodin" <goodi...@msu.edu>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:17 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I Thought I'd weigh in here, since I got my Mac around the same
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> almost, I'm going on three months now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Anouk, and would add that I often find it's easier  
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> use my PC for work-related tasks.  As I mentioned earlier, I use
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ap Blackboard, which I have to use Windows for, as Safari isn't
>>>>>> currently supported.. Since I'm logged into Blackboard most days,
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> sort of automatically means I'm using my PC, and the Mac gets
>>>>>> relegated to after-hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also still strongly prefer web-browsing on my PC.  I've had so
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> experiences where on the Mac I simply cannot locate an item  
>>>>>> that I
>>>>>> know is on a certain page.  This never happens to me on the PC. I
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> that when browsing, I can do things in half the time on my PC,  
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> sometimes on the Mac, even after spending the extra time, I don't
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> what I'm looking for, and end up going back to the PC anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm an avid reader, and so do a lot of scanning. I really don't
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> the idea of having to use two separate programs, one for scanning
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> one for the OCR, especially when I have one program on my PC that
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> do both jobs quite nicely.  This of course isn't an Apple issue,
>>>>>> but I
>>>>>> do think that for many of us who are blind, the lack of a good
>>>>>> solid
>>>>>> scanning/ocr option, is a real obstacle in terms of seeing the
>>>>>> Mac as
>>>>>> a PC replacement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like Anouk, I've also pretty much decided to keep both a Mac  
>>>>>> and a
>>>>>> PC.  at least for now, though I confess I'm tempted some days to
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> go back to my PC, in the interest of running just one OS on one
>>>>>> computer.  When I got my Mac, I had hoped not to upgrade to  
>>>>>> JAWS 11
>>>>>> and Windows 7, but it looks like I'll be getting both. I use my  
>>>>>> PC
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> work, for scanning, and for most of my web browsing, which is 90%
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> what I do.  I like the Mac a lot.  I like that VO is built in, I
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> the speed and responsiveness of the Mac, I like the fact that it
>>>>>> doesn't take a year to boot or load an ap, and I like working  
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> Itunes (I'm still running 8.2.), and I think the Mac seems to be
>>>>>> far
>>>>>> superior in how it works with Media. But the PC is what I go to  
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the things I really need to get done. I think for me, my  
>>>>>> experience
>>>>>> with the Mac reflects my experience with the iphone.  When I
>>>>>> compare
>>>>>> my iphone with my old Windows Mobile phone, the iphone is much  
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> fun! I love the aps, the games, the ability to quickly do things
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> check weather, whereas my WM phone was loaded with all kinds of
>>>>>> practical stuff for editing documents spreadsheets, powerpoint,  
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> on.  I don't want to do any of that stuff on my phone, so for me,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> iphone is by far the better fit.  but when it comes to a
>>>>>> computer, it
>>>>>> cuts the other way, and I find myself favoring the PC which seems
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> lend itself more to the day-to-day things I need to get done.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:05 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi again folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, broadcasts can certainly be done. Nicecast from Rogue  
>>>>>>> Amoeba
>>>>>>> http://rogueamoeba.com
>>>>>>> works extremely well. The only issue seems to be the effects
>>>>>>> scroll
>>>>>>> area, but I hope they'll be working on that. Otherwise, it works
>>>>>>> ridiculously well, in fact, and I have nothing to complain  
>>>>>>> about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not exactly sure about your Thumbkey thing. I don't get  
>>>>>>> it. If
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> can elaborate? Maybe I'm being dense here. :).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for VLC, I've never actually tried it out, and I personally
>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>> using Safari for web browsing. For me,  everything is much  
>>>>>>> faster.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, which braille display are you using?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Nic
>>>>>>> Skype: Kvalme
>>>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>>>>>>> AIM: cincinster
>>>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>>>>>> Facebook Profile
>>>>>>> My Twitter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>>>>> Wow. Echomac, never heard of it but when I google it I found
>>>>>>>> http://echomac.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>> I'll try it when I'm back home from work.
>>>>>>>> Anouk, I had a fire dtv reciever and used it with dvb viewer on
>>>>>>>> windows and Eye tv have driver for it so I gave it a try but it
>>>>>>>> doesn't work as I want at the moment.
>>>>>>>> I have readiris on the disk and I'm going to try it out and see
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> works with swedish language and so on.
>>>>>>>> I have heard of some broadcast tools for mac but at the  
>>>>>>>> moment I
>>>>>>>> haven't looked in to it. I don't broadcast at the moment so it
>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>> have so high priority. I still have my studio pc sitting under
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> desk so I can use stationplaylist and all the broadcast stuff
>>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>>> want to.
>>>>>>>> Regards Tony
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <anou...@home.nl>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey Tony, Nice to hear from you! (the world is a small place)
>>>>>>>>> Funny
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> started our mac journey at the seem time. I am curious, can  
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> broadcast on
>>>>>>>>> the mac? I guess otsjuke wont work and obiously shoutcast wont
>>>>>>>>> either. I was
>>>>>>>>> thinking of running windows with vmware but now I am just
>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>> to ask my
>>>>>>>>> brother to help me install windows 7 via bootcamp instead. Has
>>>>>>>>> anyone got
>>>>>>>>> experience with installing windows via bootcamp as dual  
>>>>>>>>> boot? Is
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> diffucult? I presume the drivers for windows 7 for the macbook
>>>>>>>>> pro
>>>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>>>> available from apple? I still want to try vuescan an
>>>>>>>>> dreadiris, in
>>>>>>>>> fact i
>>>>>>>>> have the programs on my computer bu tI want to wait till hp
>>>>>>>>> releases the
>>>>>>>>> drivers for my scanner that are native to sl, also I hope by
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> time abbyy
>>>>>>>>> will have released a demo of finereader for the mac that is
>>>>>>>>> native
>>>>>>>>> to sl. I
>>>>>>>>> am just concerned that either adf wont work, scanning iwll be
>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>> slow or
>>>>>>>>> dutch character recognition wont be as good as omnipage.
>>>>>>>>> I am surprised that you also have the thumbkey problem, i
>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>>>> something stupid on my part, corrupt install whatever. I guess
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> will both
>>>>>>>>> have to mail apple accessibility about this.
>>>>>>>>> So, you are using a tv tuner with your mac? This is the next
>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>> i want to
>>>>>>>>> taccle since now I have an analog tv standing on my desk and
>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>> taking up
>>>>>>>>> space that I could use otherwise. I did have digital tv in the
>>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>>> bu tI
>>>>>>>>> had a lot of trouble with it and in the end just went back to
>>>>>>>>> analog. There
>>>>>>>>> are not that many tuners for the mac I think (analog or
>>>>>>>>> otherwise)
>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>> guess even less that are available in Europe. Which do you
>>>>>>>>> use? I
>>>>>>>>> guess as
>>>>>>>>> long as I get one with a remote things will be ok (if it  
>>>>>>>>> indeed
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> find the
>>>>>>>>> channels).
>>>>>>>>> I too LOVE the sleep features of the mac, i never turn mine  
>>>>>>>>> off,
>>>>>>>>> just close
>>>>>>>>> the lid and thats it.
>>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Tony Bernedal" <t...@bernedal.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:16 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anouk.
>>>>>>>>>> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like  
>>>>>>>>>> you I
>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the
>>>>>>>>>> scanning
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage  
>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from
>>>>>>>>>> a no
>>>>>>>>>> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a
>>>>>>>>>> virtual
>>>>>>>>>> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the
>>>>>>>>>> virtual
>>>>>>>>>> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich
>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the
>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows
>>>>>>>>>> programs.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow
>>>>>>>>>> leopard my
>>>>>>>>>> problems with it is gone.
>>>>>>>>>> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be
>>>>>>>>>> solved. I
>>>>>>>>>> have same issue with alva satelite.
>>>>>>>>>> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd
>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies  
>>>>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux  
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> with screenreader, only on mac, great!).
>>>>>>>>>> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at  
>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And,
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> sleep
>>>>>>>>>> works well too.
>>>>>>>>>> So I'm happy with my mac system.
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with your mac!
>>>>>>>>>> Regards Tony
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <anou...@home.nl>:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now
>>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>>> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain
>>>>>>>>>>> below
>>>>>>>>>>> why. In
>>>>>>>>>>> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive
>>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as
>>>>>>>>>>> well as
>>>>>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>>>>>> pc.
>>>>>>>>>>> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead
>>>>>>>>>>> watching
>>>>>>>>>>> movies
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples
>>>>>>>>>>> office suite
>>>>>>>>>>> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text
>>>>>>>>>>> editors/office
>>>>>>>>>>> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use
>>>>>>>>>>> garage band
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha
>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. I
>>>>>>>>>>> like the
>>>>>>>>>>> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening  
>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>> its sound
>>>>>>>>>>> output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I  
>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>> find using
>>>>>>>>>>> the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while  
>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> pc and
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice  
>>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>>> endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to
>>>>>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>>>>> reading,
>>>>>>>>>>> eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal
>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>> to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if  
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>>> long documents.
>>>>>>>>>>> At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have
>>>>>>>>>>> gotten mail
>>>>>>>>>>> working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16
>>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> scan my books for school, while I know that there are some
>>>>>>>>>>> scanning
>>>>>>>>>>> solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp
>>>>>>>>>>> drivers for
>>>>>>>>>>> sl
>>>>>>>>>>> have been released I just dont know if they will be as good
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> easy as
>>>>>>>>>>> using omnipage pro 16 and am a bit hesistant to try it  
>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> that (I
>>>>>>>>>>> really really hope that a full version of finereader will
>>>>>>>>>>> eventually be
>>>>>>>>>>> released for the mac since I have heard it can rival  
>>>>>>>>>>> omnipage
>>>>>>>>>>> pro).
>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly there is filesharing, i will be brief. Ftp does
>>>>>>>>>>> work on
>>>>>>>>>>> the mac
>>>>>>>>>>> with transmit which I rather like although I have not
>>>>>>>>>>> registered
>>>>>>>>>>> it yet,
>>>>>>>>>>> questions i asked its support team went unanswered. Usenet
>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>> works but
>>>>>>>>>>> udner windows I preferred to use other programs which are  
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> the mac.
>>>>>>>>>>> The third point is playing games which I do a lot on the pec
>>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>>> interactive fiction and muds. There is an interpreter for
>>>>>>>>>>> interactive
>>>>>>>>>>> fiction called zoom which I tried and although I can open
>>>>>>>>>>> games
>>>>>>>>>>> with it
>>>>>>>>>>> saved games were a problem for me since I could not open a
>>>>>>>>>>> saved
>>>>>>>>>>> game
>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>> (made in frotz).
>>>>>>>>>>> For muds the situation on the mac is not so good, I play  
>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> on windows but there is only one mudclient that I know of
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>>> sl and which is still being developed, jamochamud which  
>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>> under java.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>> is not too accessible at the moment but the programmer has
>>>>>>>>>>> promised to
>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>> at it, still it does not offer all the features even then
>>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>>> am used
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> on a windows client.
>>>>>>>>>>> As soon as windows 7 becomes officially available I am
>>>>>>>>>>> planning to
>>>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>>>>> it on my mac (probbably via bootcamp) so that I at least can
>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>> my mac
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> the time even if I need to use windows, hopefully for the
>>>>>>>>>>> scanning and
>>>>>>>>>>> downloading tasks I will in the future be able to use the  
>>>>>>>>>>> mac
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>>>>>> hopes for muds as well but for now at least my mac is mostly
>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>>> and in the library.
>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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