Yes, but VoiceOver isn't crashing, it's just slow. I looked in recent logs, searching for "voice" and then "speech", but got only some speech recognition messages and errors, nothing related to VoiceOver. > On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Isn't crash log still a function of console? > > Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates > Louie P (Pete) Nalda > MySpace.com/musikonalda <http://myspace.com/musikonalda> > Facebook.com/lpnalda <http://facebook.com/lpnalda> > Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda <http://linkedin.com/in/lpnalda> > Twitter: @lpnalda > > On Oct 20, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com > <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote: > >> I wouldn't even know where to start looking, but if anyone can suggest a log >> to help with this random lag problem, please speak up. The more information >> we can offer Apple, the more they can have to work with. >>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:38 AM, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Alex, >>> OS X keeps many logs. One at least should be able to provide clues. I >>> would like to know which one would be useful for this as I want to see what >>> Mavericks is doing directly after login for the next 30-60 seconds. >>> >>> Have you done this? It might help to see what is going on there. >>> >>> From The Believer. . . >>> . . . what if it were true? >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>> >>> On 10/20/2014 8:24 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>> I definitely don't have File Vault enabled, so this isn't the problem on >>>> my machine. >>>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:01 AM, wayne17a <wayne...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:wayne...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello I have just found out the reason for my lag when I installed this >>>>> os I had file vault incrypt my files but I did not know this at the time >>>>> and now it has finished there is no lag to talk of so check in the >>>>> background to see if file vault is incrypting hope this helps >>>>> >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Alex Hall >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:03 PM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: VO and lag on Yosemite >>>>> >>>>> The lag seems random. I've heard of 4GB ram machines running fine, while >>>>> newer ones with more ram have the lag. I've heard that Nuance voices >>>>> cause the problem, and that they don't. I've been told a clean install >>>>> made things worse, or a bit better... All I can say is: if you have this >>>>> problem, report it to Apple along with the specifics of your machine. >>>>> Hopefully they can pin it down that way. >>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This lag issue is a bbig deal breaker for me. I won't upgrade until >>>>>> something is done about it. I mean, c'mon apple! I don't care about >>>>>> fancy new features, just don't screw up the basics. a sluggish response >>>>>> would drive me nuts - I'd probably go back to windows rather than put up >>>>>> with that. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:43 PM, David Eagle <onlineea...@googlemail.com >>>>>> <mailto:onlineea...@googlemail.com> <mailto:onlineea...@googlemail.com >>>>>> <mailto:onlineea...@googlemail.com>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Well I'm not getting any lag whatsoever. If nything, it seems more >>>>>> responsive. I'm using the Daniel Nuance voice. I'm running a 2011 >>>>>> MacBook Pro. However, I do have 8 gig of ram I think. >>>>>>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 01:25, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com> <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What is the spec of your machine with this lag? >>>>>>> So far observing posts on list the people who have reported lag and >>>>>>> specs appear to have 4GB machines. I have a 2011 iMac but 16 GB so am >>>>>>> hoping that the lag will not be so much of an issue if I make the leap. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 01:02, Vic <vtsa...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:vtsa...@gmail.com> <mailto:vtsa...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:vtsa...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I clean-installed Yosemite and this seems to have improved VoiceOver >>>>>>> response somewhat, but there's still the feeling of pushing the stone >>>>>>> up the mountain when typing or navigating with VoiceOver. Interestingly >>>>>>> enough, with a Braille display connected, you definitely see how much >>>>>>> faster the text appears there as compared to Alex speaking it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:26:43 AM UTC-7, Christopher Hallsworth >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi all >>>>>>> I can tell you that during the developer previews and public betas the >>>>>>> lag has been always there somewhat. I did both a clean install and an >>>>>>> update on a secondary partition on my internal disk with the same >>>>>>> results. This was on a late 2011 Macbook Pro 13 with 4 GB of RAM. It's >>>>>>> tolerable but do sympathize with those having a more severe lag than I >>>>>>> am. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my laptop >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18/10/2014 14:10, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>> I've heard one or two reports of a clean install making the lag >>>>>>>> considerably worse, which is something I've never heard of a clean >>>>>>>> install doing. For my part, the lag with Alex is there but tolerable, >>>>>>>> while the lag with Nuance voices is ridiculous. I have no activities, >>>>>>>> and I'm on a 2012 MacBook Air, 4GB ram, 1.7GhZ I5 processor. >>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:40 AM, David Griffith <daj.gr >>>>>>>>> <http://daj.gr/>...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> <javascript:>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When I moved from Mountain Lion to Mavericks I noticed a big >>>>>>>>> improvement once I had made a clean install >>>>>>>>> . This may assist you as well this time and also you may want to look >>>>>>>>> to make sure you do not have activities running just in case this is >>>>>>>>> an issue for Yosemite as well. >>>>>>>>> When I move to Yosemite I will probably attempt an upgrade but will >>>>>>>>> then probably do a clean install later if there are any performance >>>>>>>>> issue. That process appeared to work well then with all my apps >>>>>>>>> etc being taken across from myTime Machine. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 00:32, Faisal <newyork...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <http://gmail.com/> <javascript:> <mailto:newyork...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <http://gmail.com/> <javascript:>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> yes, i did it but nothing happens >>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 08:22, Maria and Joe Chapman >>>>>>>>>>> <bubbyg...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> <javascript:> >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:bubbyg...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> <javascript:>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi. have you tried repairing permissions and has this made any >>>>>>>>>>> difference? >>>>>>>>>>> thanks ? >>>>>>>>>>> Blessings! >>>>>>>>>>> maria and Joe chapman >>>>>>>>>>> bubbyg...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> <javascript:> >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:bubbyg...@gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> <javascript:>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 12:28 pm, Dionipher Herrera <dion...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <http://gmail.com/> <javascript:> <mailto:dion...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <http://gmail.com/> <javascript:>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> yes me too, and i hate it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 01:32, Faisal <newyork...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://gmail.com/> <javascript:> <mailto:newyork...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://gmail.com/> <javascript:>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>>> so I took the plunge and installed Yosemite. 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