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> On Oct 20, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > > I wouldn't even know where to start looking, but if anyone can suggest a log > to help with this random lag problem, please speak up. The more information > we can offer Apple, the more they can have to work with. >> On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:38 AM, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Alex, >> OS X keeps many logs. One at least should be able to provide clues. I >> would like to know which one would be useful for this as I want to see what >> Mavericks is doing directly after login for the next 30-60 seconds. >> >> Have you done this? It might help to see what is going on there. >> >> From The Believer. . . >> . . . what if it were true? >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >>> On 10/20/2014 8:24 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> I definitely don't have File Vault enabled, so this isn't the problem on my >>> machine. >>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:01 AM, wayne17a <wayne...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello I have just found out the reason for my lag when I installed this os >>>> I had file vault incrypt my files but I did not know this at the time and >>>> now it has finished there is no lag to talk of so check in the background >>>> to see if file vault is incrypting hope this helps >>>> >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:03 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: VO and lag on Yosemite >>>> >>>> The lag seems random. I've heard of 4GB ram machines running fine, while >>>> newer ones with more ram have the lag. I've heard that Nuance voices cause >>>> the problem, and that they don't. I've been told a clean install made >>>> things worse, or a bit better... All I can say is: if you have this >>>> problem, report it to Apple along with the specifics of your machine. >>>> Hopefully they can pin it down that way. >>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This lag issue is a bbig deal breaker for me. I won't upgrade until >>>>> something is done about it. I mean, c'mon apple! I don't care about fancy >>>>> new features, just don't screw up the basics. a sluggish response would >>>>> drive me nuts - I'd probably go back to windows rather than put up with >>>>> that. >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:43 PM, David Eagle <onlineea...@googlemail.com >>>>> <mailto:onlineea...@googlemail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well I'm not getting any lag whatsoever. If nything, it seems more >>>>> responsive. I'm using the Daniel Nuance voice. I'm running a 2011 MacBook >>>>> Pro. However, I do have 8 gig of ram I think. >>>>>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 01:25, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> What is the spec of your machine with this lag? >>>>>> So far observing posts on list the people who have reported lag and >>>>>> specs appear to have 4GB machines. I have a 2011 iMac but 16 GB so am >>>>>> hoping that the lag will not be so much of an issue if I make the leap. >>>>>> >>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 01:02, Vic <vtsa...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:vtsa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I clean-installed Yosemite and this seems to have improved VoiceOver >>>>>> response somewhat, but there's still the feeling of pushing the stone up >>>>>> the mountain when typing or navigating with VoiceOver. Interestingly >>>>>> enough, with a Braille display connected, you definitely see how much >>>>>> faster the text appears there as compared to Alex speaking it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:26:43 AM UTC-7, Christopher Hallsworth >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi all >>>>>> I can tell you that during the developer previews and public betas the >>>>>> lag has been always there somewhat. I did both a clean install and an >>>>>> update on a secondary partition on my internal disk with the same >>>>>> results. This was on a late 2011 Macbook Pro 13 with 4 GB of RAM. It's >>>>>> tolerable but do sympathize with those having a more severe lag than I >>>>>> am. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my laptop >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18/10/2014 14:10, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>> I've heard one or two reports of a clean install making the lag >>>>>>> considerably worse, which is something I've never heard of a clean >>>>>>> install doing. For my part, the lag with Alex is there but tolerable, >>>>>>> while the lag with Nuance voices is ridiculous. I have no activities, >>>>>>> and I'm on a 2012 MacBook Air, 4GB ram, 1.7GhZ I5 processor. >>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:40 AM, David Griffith <daj.gr...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When I moved from Mountain Lion to Mavericks I noticed a big >>>>>>>> improvement once I had made a clean install >>>>>>>> . This may assist you as well this time and also you may want to look >>>>>>>> to make sure you do not have activities running just in case this is >>>>>>>> an issue for Yosemite as well. >>>>>>>> When I move to Yosemite I will probably attempt an upgrade but will >>>>>>>> then probably do a clean install later if there are any performance >>>>>>>> issue. That process appeared to work well then with all my apps etc >>>>>>>> being taken across from myTime Machine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 00:32, Faisal <newyork...@gmail.com <javascript:> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:newyork...@gmail.com <javascript:>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> yes, i did it but nothing happens >>>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 08:22, Maria and Joe Chapman <bubbyg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:> <mailto:bubbyg...@gmail.com <javascript:>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi. have you tried repairing permissions and has this made any >>>>>>>>>> difference? >>>>>>>>>> thanks ? >>>>>>>>>> Blessings! >>>>>>>>>> maria and Joe chapman >>>>>>>>>> bubbyg...@gmail.com <javascript:> <mailto:bubbyg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 12:28 pm, Dionipher Herrera <dion...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:> <mailto:dion...@gmail.com <javascript:>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> yes me too, and i hate it. >>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 01:32, Faisal <newyork...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:> <mailto:newyork...@gmail.com <javascript:>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>> so I took the plunge and installed Yosemite. I'm noticing a >>>>>>>>>>>> definite lag with voice over. 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