Yeah, what about variables in automater. I could never make that work. For a workflow I want to do, I want to make one to download the 3 files that make up a 3 hour radio show whose podcast seems so corrupted, almost everything says no episodes are found. Come to find out, the feed contains 3 or 4 years worth of shows times 3 files each, so maybe not much can process podcasts that large. Also, the file names have percent 20's in them, so 3 wget commands with the date as a variable, the long constant part of the url as another, and running it for the 3 hours named 12pm, 1pm, and 2pm wouldn't seem possible as percent signals variable, so making it send the percent 20's in the url would seem hard. Why anyone posts files like that is beyond me, but that's this radio station for you, who I think Clearchannel might own.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hofstader" <c...@hofstader.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:24 AM Subject: Re: Another List? was: Re: apple script and vo > > Absolute beginners can be the core of such a list as their questions > often strike a spark in an old-timer's thought process which can lead > to some really good ideas that one hadn't considered before because, > like people in any profession, we can get stuck in our ways. > > Also, I think their is a lack of AppleScript and VO hackers out there > - maybe as few as five or so - providing a place where people can get > help and help each other out will help build those roles and, given > the imagination of such a group we might be able to do some really > amazing things. > > cdh > On Sep 2, 2009, at 7:56 AM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> I think this is an excellent idea. However, I am not a programmer >> although I >> am very interested in computers etc. Would there be room on the list >> for >> complete beginners? >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris Hofstader" <c...@hofstader.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:26 PM >> Subject: Another List? was: Re: apple script and vo >> >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Since SL hit the streets on Friday there has been a bit of chatter on >>> this and other general purpose VO/Mac related lists about >>> AppleScript >>> and other programming tools and issues. I like reading these because >>> I'm a crusty old hacker with deep running geek tendencies; on the >>> other hand, I would bet that most people really don't care as they >>> will never attempt to write a program or a VO script. >>> >>> I encourage everyone to do some sort of beginner programming tutorial >>> as just writing one or two very simple programs will help them >>> understand how and why computers do the things they do. Such will >>> also build affinity for the other application developers and the gang >>> at Apple who bring us VO which will help one learn to be patient when >>> your favorite bug gets ignored for a pretty long time. >>> >>> With that said, though, I would assume that the average person really >>> doesn't want to touch on programming in a system language or do any >>> scripting. Furthermore, they probably don't want to read what can >>> look like Chinese to the uninitiated. >>> >>> So, I propose an apple-hackers list for those of us who like a little >>> silicon under the fingernails so we can share ideas, techniques and >>> lend each other code so as to promote development and avoid wasting >>> time. Anything I do will be GPL so people can download it from SVN >>> on >>> hofstader.com >>> (when I get it set up) and others will have their own ways of >>> distributing things. >>> >>> This has worked for the JAWS scripting and programming blind mailing >>> lists for over a decade and we members of one or both of them have >>> had >>> the enjoyment of watching high school hackers go onto get a degree >>> and >>> enter the workforce partially because we old-timers smack them around >>> a bit while pointing them in the right direction. >>> >>> The reason I don't recommend programming blind for us Macsters is >>> that >>> it is almost 100% Windows and GNU/Linux people there and a sudden >>> invasion of Mac people might make some people pretty uncomfortable as >>> we're adding an entirely new platform to the mix and they neither >>> know >>> the answers nor, in most cases, have a Mac around to help us with our >>> problem. >>> >>> What do you folks think? >>> >>> cdh >>> >>> Less than 1/2 cups... >>> >>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> XCode is an Integrated Development Environment for writing Mac OS X >>>> and iPhone applications. It has nothing whatsoever to do with X11, >>>> and >>>> is indeed quite accessible with VoiceOver. >>>> >>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:34 AM, James & Nash wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Xcode is for the X11 windowing manager and tools which are Unix/ >>>>> Linux tools >>>>> and not accessible with VO. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "william lomas" <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> >>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:50 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: apple script and vo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> install x code >>>>>> On 1 Sep 2009, at 16:32, Marie Howarth wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> no developers tools, there was an optional install but x code was >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> only thing there. very confusing. lol >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Perhaps it is an optional install in SL? try putting in the >>>>>>>> install >>>>>>>> DVD maybe under developer tools. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let us know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Marie Howarth wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> permissions was set to system but it says there are no items in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> folder. hmm, how could I fix this? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Permission problem maybe? In general unix, if the "X" >>>>>>>>>> permission is >>>>>>>>>> not set on a directory one can not navigate to it. Use >>>>>>>>>> command- >>>>>>>>>> i on >>>>>>>>>> the directory and see what that says... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Marie Howarth wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> that's the thing, I can't even find the apple script editor. >>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>> is in my apps folder is a folder called apple script and I >>>>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>>>> open >>>>>>>>>>> this folder no matter what I do. used to be able to in >>>>>>>>>>> leopard, >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> SL. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, you need to use the scripteditor to edit your apple >>>>>>>>>>>> scripts. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a specific function you are interested in? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A very basic apple script is: >>>>>>>>>>>> tell application "Mail" >>>>>>>>>>>> activate >>>>>>>>>>>> end tell >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> These three lines would start the mail application and >>>>>>>>>>>> make it >>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>> current application. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jon >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Marie Howarth wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I want to use apple script to set up some options on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>>>>>>>>> commander. But how do I do that? apple script is a folder >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>> matter what I do, I canot get to open. it takes me back to >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> devices >>>>>>>>>>>>> in sidebar for some odd reason, no matter how I try to open >>>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>> help would be greatly appreciated. I want to take advantage >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>> apple script with VO to set up commands, but not sure how >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> any help would be great :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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