Sounds like a good idea to me.
Blake > Subject: Another List? was: Re: apple script and vo > From: c...@hofstader.com > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:26:12 -0400 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > > Hi, > > Since SL hit the streets on Friday there has been a bit of chatter on > this and other general purpose VO/Mac related lists about AppleScript > and other programming tools and issues. I like reading these because > I'm a crusty old hacker with deep running geek tendencies; on the > other hand, I would bet that most people really don't care as they > will never attempt to write a program or a VO script. > > I encourage everyone to do some sort of beginner programming tutorial > as just writing one or two very simple programs will help them > understand how and why computers do the things they do. Such will > also build affinity for the other application developers and the gang > at Apple who bring us VO which will help one learn to be patient when > your favorite bug gets ignored for a pretty long time. > > With that said, though, I would assume that the average person really > doesn't want to touch on programming in a system language or do any > scripting. Furthermore, they probably don't want to read what can > look like Chinese to the uninitiated. > > So, I propose an apple-hackers list for those of us who like a little > silicon under the fingernails so we can share ideas, techniques and > lend each other code so as to promote development and avoid wasting > time. Anything I do will be GPL so people can download it from SVN on > hofstader.com > (when I get it set up) and others will have their own ways of > distributing things. > > This has worked for the JAWS scripting and programming blind mailing > lists for over a decade and we members of one or both of them have had > the enjoyment of watching high school hackers go onto get a degree and > enter the workforce partially because we old-timers smack them around > a bit while pointing them in the right direction. > > The reason I don't recommend programming blind for us Macsters is that > it is almost 100% Windows and GNU/Linux people there and a sudden > invasion of Mac people might make some people pretty uncomfortable as > we're adding an entirely new platform to the mix and they neither know > the answers nor, in most cases, have a Mac around to help us with our > problem. > > What do you folks think? > > cdh > > Less than 1/2 cups... > > On Sep 1, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: > > > > > > > XCode is an Integrated Development Environment for writing Mac OS X > > and iPhone applications. It has nothing whatsoever to do with X11, and > > is indeed quite accessible with VoiceOver. > > > > On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:34 AM, James & Nash wrote: > > > >> > >> Xcode is for the X11 windowing manager and tools which are Unix/ > >> Linux tools > >> and not accessible with VO. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "william lomas" <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> > >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:50 PM > >> Subject: Re: apple script and vo > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> install x code > >>> On 1 Sep 2009, at 16:32, Marie Howarth wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> no developers tools, there was an optional install but x code was > >>>> the > >>>> only thing there. very confusing. lol > >>>> > >>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Perhaps it is an optional install in SL? try putting in the > >>>>> install > >>>>> DVD maybe under developer tools. > >>>>> > >>>>> Let us know. > >>>>> > >>>>> Jon > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Marie Howarth wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> permissions was set to system but it says there are no items in > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> folder. hmm, how could I fix this? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Permission problem maybe? In general unix, if the "X" > >>>>>>> permission is > >>>>>>> not set on a directory one can not navigate to it. Use command- > >>>>>>> i on > >>>>>>> the directory and see what that says... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Marie Howarth wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> that's the thing, I can't even find the apple script editor. > >>>>>>>> all > >>>>>>>> there > >>>>>>>> is in my apps folder is a folder called apple script and I > >>>>>>>> cannot > >>>>>>>> open > >>>>>>>> this folder no matter what I do. used to be able to in leopard, > >>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> SL. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello, you need to use the scripteditor to edit your apple > >>>>>>>>> scripts. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Is there a specific function you are interested in? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> A very basic apple script is: > >>>>>>>>> tell application "Mail" > >>>>>>>>> activate > >>>>>>>>> end tell > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> These three lines would start the mail application and make it > >>>>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>>> current application. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best wishes, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Jon > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Marie Howarth wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> OK, I want to use apple script to set up some options on the > >>>>>>>>>> keyboard > >>>>>>>>>> commander. But how do I do that? apple script is a folder > >>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>>>> matter what I do, I canot get to open. it takes me back to > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> devices > >>>>>>>>>> in sidebar for some odd reason, no matter how I try to open > >>>>>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>>>>> any > >>>>>>>>>> help would be greatly appreciated. I want to take advantage > >>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> using > >>>>>>>>>> apple script with VO to set up commands, but not sure how to > >>>>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>>>>> any help would be great :) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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