Hi,

And that's called not irc, that's called a irc proxy hack.


--Scott





At 12:09 PM -0700 7/14/09, Alex wrote:
>Hi,
>
>You can have a intermediate server push IRC messages to you.
>
>Regards,
>Alex,
>
>
>On Jul 14, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Scott Bresnahan wrote:
>
>>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  I love the iPhone, but I have to disagree.  I
>>  think both points have some merit.  The iPhone is
>>  not for everyone..
>>
>>  1.  Multitasking is a short coming.  It's like
>>  the Finder compared to the Multi-Finder in the
>>  Mac Plus days.  Some technologies, ssh and irc
>>  come to mind, will not work well on the iPhone.
>>  We use a custom irc server to do real time IT
>>  troubleshooting across our applications, and I
>>  cannot keep my irc session alive while I use
>>  Safari.  This is not the case on other phone
>>  platforms and is a valid argument.  You can't say
>>  that remembering your preferences and place in an
>>  application is the same as background processing.
>>
>>  2.  Although you may have memorized the keypad,
>>  it's not reasonable to assume everyone will or
>>  can.   Which has a faster learning curve?  The
>>  touch screen layout or the standard keypad?  I
>>  say this only because part of the usefulness of a
>>  device lies not with the expert user, but with
>>  the casual user.   Personally, most of my numbers
>>  are direct dials, so I don't have the memory for
>>  the keypad due to lack of practice and everyday
>>  use, but when I do need it, I struggle and yes, a
>>  tactile keypad would be easier..  That said, I am
>>  surviving.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Finally, one more con on the iPhone is the
>>  battery.  I can imagine several use cases where a
>>  spare battery that's not an add on power pack
>>  would be required for some users.  The iPhone is
>>  designed for a certain work flow.  certain
>>  patterns it is not good for.  I understood these
>>  before I bought it, but don't dismiss them as the
>>  Almighty iPhone is God, cause it's not.
>>
>>  That said, I suggest the iPhone to everyone I
>>  see.  Although I warn my colleagues about the
>>  background and battery since I know that's an
>>  issue based on their work.
>>
>>  --Scott
>>
>>
>>  address these comments. See my responses inline.
>>
>>  On Jul 13, 2009, at 10:55 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>
>>  1. i can multi task on a symbian phone i can not on the iphone
>>  2. the thought of having to keep closing
>>  application x to use application y will be
>>  frustrating for symbian users, since i can have
>>  the web and an sms window open at same time
>>
>>  These are one thought broken into two points, so
>>  I will address them as one. This is not a fair
>>  assessment, or even an accurate one. While the iPhone does not
>>  technically perform multi-tasking, it proides the same
>>  functionality. You can quickly switch between apps on the iPhone,
>>  and iPhone apps are designed to remember where they were when you
>>  left them.
>>  The upshot of this is, therefore, that you get
>>  the illusion of multi-tasking with all its
>>  benefits, without the performance hit. This
>>  argument is a flawed one, that is based on a
>>  misunderstanding of the iPhone and its operation.
>>
>>
>>  3. Using speech on a call on a symbian phone is
>>  in my view easier since if one dials numbers for
>>  an automated system, it is easier I think in my
>>  view, to type the number on a keypad, rather than
>>  having to mess around finding it on a dial pad etc
>>
>>
>>  The buttons on the iPhone's keypad are large and
>>  do not move around. I do not search for them
>>  anymore. It's a different experience, and it
>>  takes a small amount of practice. However, it is
>>  no harder or easier, once you have learned to use
>>  it properly, than a physical keypad.
>>
>>  Josh de Lioncourt
>>      Smy other mail provider is an owlS
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>>  --Scott
>>
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