no but I mean that one can keep an application open on a nokia phone hold down menu to get back to it with no problems but it seems on an i phone you can't keep say an SMS open whilst on the web or something to come back to later WIll
On 14 Jul 2009, at 09:04, Thuy wrote: > > Not strictly true that you have to close down one app to use another. > It's like windows mobile, where you press the home key to launch a new > process. Then when you want to go back to the previous one, just > select it and you're back where you left off. Since screenreaders can > only give one focus at any given moment (and presumably we can only > interact with one thing at a time), this seems to make a lot of sense > to me, otherwise you would have multiple voices babbling away if you > really did want to be 'multi-tasking'?! > > > > On 14/07/2009, william lomas <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> I agree with this. >> >> 1. i can multi task on a symbian phone i can not on the iphone >> 2. the thought of having to keep closing application x to use >> application y will be frustrating for symbian users, since i can have >> the web and an sms window open at same time >> >> 3. Using speech on a call on a symbian phone is in my view easier >> since if one dials numbers for an automated system, it is easier I >> think in my view, to type the number on a keypad, rather than having >> to mess around finding it on a dial pad etc >> >> On 13 Jul 2009, at 22:41, Damon Fibraio wrote: >> >>> I’m not 100 percent sure. >>> >>> -- >>> Damon Fibraio >>> screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibr...@comcast.net. skype: >>> dfibraio >>> Find me on facebook as Damon fibraio or twitter as dfibraio >>> personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. >>> Band web sites: THD, http://www.thdband.com. Days Before Tomorrow, >>> http://www.daysbeforetomorrow.com >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> ] On Behalf Of patrickneazer >>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:31 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone >>> >>> Hello Damon and all: >>> >>> I have no idea what to say in response to your question because I >>> have both an Iphone and a symbian 60 phone and I am sold on the >>> performance of the Iphone. >>> >>> So, let me ask a question of you and then possibly I would know >>> better how to respond. >>> >>> What sorts of comparisons are you wanting to make. What for example >>> would you want to see that would provide you with some sense that >>> the Iphone truly would be worth the effort and enthusiasm others are >>> putting into it. >>> >>> I am not advocating that you drink the coolaide. I am asking however >>> what flavor of drink would you like to order. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 13, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Damon Fibraio wrote: >>> >>> >>> OK. I understand what you are saying. But is there anything about >>> the I-phone beyond that? I mean, featurewise or functionality. I am >>> replying to somebody who said they get more from the i-phone than >>> they get from their windows mobile phone and I am curious to know >>> why. What is different? I mean, I have been on the net with my >>> blackjack 2. Why is the i-phone better and easier? What else does >>> the i-phone do besides make calls and get on the net, for example? >>> This goes beyond the fact that voice over is built in and it saves >>> money. I got that part. I just hear that people are finding this >>> more powerful than a windows smart phone and I am curious to know >>> how. >>> >>> -- >>> Damon Fibraio >>> screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibr...@comcast.net. skype: >>> dfibraio >>> Find me on facebook as Damon fibraio or twitter as dfibraio >>> personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. >>> Band web sites: THD, http://www.thdband.com. Days Before Tomorrow, >>> http://www.daysbeforetomorrow.com >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> ] On Behalf Of Scott Howell >>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:11 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone >>> >>> Well let me put it into perspective from my point of view. When it >>> comes right down to it, cost, cost, and cost. All the adaptive >>> solutions you mention cost lots of money. I'm by no means unable to >>> afford the adaptive solutions, but I also realize that the adaptive >>> market is small and the cost will be considerably more do to the >>> limited market. However, why should I pay oh, maybe $150 for the >>> phone, $300 or so for the screen reader, and then another $895 for >>> the GPS solution. So, now I have invested $1,345 into a phone that >>> will get me around and generally offer me fairly accessible benefits >>> to some apps. Where now with the iPhone I can spend $199 or $299 and >>> get great access to pretty much anything I need, tight integration >>> with my Mac without needing a third-party app that I would likely >>> have to pay for, and a future of other capabilities that will not >>> cost me nearly as much. So, really in my opinion I'd rather spend >>> the money on other things and really to be honest, it always will >>> come down to what works for you and fits within your budget. If you >>> are happy with the setup you have, then that is great and I am >>> pleased for you. However, the other thing here is choice and that is >>> probably a close second in my book. Having choice is great and yes, >>> it is also great that I can just go to the Apple store and buy the >>> phone if I choose to do so and be up and running right away. I don't >>> have to unregister and reregister a phone etc. Now of course don't >>> take my message as picking on you or any of the developers of the >>> software, I'm merely answering your question with my opinion. >>> Again , hey what works for you is all that matters in the end and >>> you are happy with your choice because you are the one using it, not >>> me. :) >>> On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Damon Fibraio wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> OK, consider me a newbie. I have a Samsung blackjack 2 windows >>> mobile smart phone with mobile speak and was planning on purchasing >>> mobile geo. I keep hearing everybody going absolutely crazy over >>> access to the I-phone. Can somebody tell me why this is so great? I >>> don’t really understand the hype. I do understand we get access >>> right out of the box with voice over. I do understand that once you >>> get used to the touch screen and the VO gestures and whatnot that >>> this is really great access, according to what everybody is saying. >>> But, why is the I-phone so great? Does it do GPS comparable to >>> mobile Geo or wayfinder? What does this phone do that is making >>> everybody turn inside out? I’d love to understand this, so any help >>> you can provide would be great. I have AT&T and probably could >>> switch if I wanted to, but I just don’t understand why this phone is >>> the second coming. >>> >>> -- >>> Damon Fibraio >>> screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibr...@comcast.net. skype: >>> dfibraio >>> Find me on facebook as Damon fibraio or twitter as dfibraio >>> personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. >>> Band web sites: THD, http://www.thdband.com. Days Before Tomorrow, >>> http://www.daysbeforetomorrow.com >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> ] On Behalf Of Scott Howell >>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:37 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone >>> >>> Hey Josh, I think the same question can be asked of those users who >>> first laid hands on one of those touch-screen PDAs, but I guess some >>> of those or most had keyboards. However, then we can take this same >>> logic to any new interface. For example, those who remember the days >>> of switching from DOS to Windows or who used the Linux command line >>> and then moved to Gnome etc. Ah how the debate rages, but alas this >>> to shall pass. I myself can't wait to get an iPhone and I can >>> already see all the advantages it will offer over the windows mobile >>> device I am using currently and don't much care for. >>> On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> What I'd like to ask all these folks saying the iPhone is so >>> inefficient is: How efficient were you three weeks after the first >>> time you ever touched a QWERTY keyboard? It's a whole new model for >>> human interface interaction. After three weeks, I have no problems >>> just touching the battery status, or really much of anything else. >>> Things are not hard to find. They do not move around, and the flick >>> method of navigation is great when you are having trouble with a >>> brand-new and unfamiliar screen. >>> >>> Sitting with an iPhone for an hour and then declaring it slow, >>> inefficient, and difficult to navigate is just silly. :) The ever >>> growing number of VI iPhone users will tell you the same. Sure, it >>> takes time to be comfortable. 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