Who cares if we win them over. We talk with our pocket books and, if enough of us stop paying thousands for their products and hundreds more each year in SMA agreements it will get their attention. It's like any other product and the markets they compete in.
_____ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone You know I truly am not into slamming people, but in Mr. Mosen's case, I have heard his previous show/podcast and just based on observations from that and things he has said/written, I seriously doubt he would sit down with you or an iPhone and certainly not to be objective about his findings. I think he would be quite argumentative and take a hardline on his position regardless of whether he is proven right or wrong. In other words, you'd accomplish nothing more than wasting your time and giving yourself a headache. I'll not name names or so forth, but a conversation I had with a particular adaptive technology developer ran along the lines of me expressing my enthusiasm about the Mac and VO and how it was nice to see their product could be used under a VM. Of course that met with a very much "I don't care" attitude. I think I was looked upon as being at the very least miledly daft and why in hell would you want to use a stupid Mac when you have a great solution and a good os at your disposal. :) So, the market being what it is, I don't think you'll ever win him or most of these folks over. I guess I sort of understand considering that Apple is truly a competitor now and any competition is a threat. On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Larry Wanger wrote: Josh, I may complain about the keyboard but overall this phone is great. I am more productive with this phone and able to do so much more than I could with my Samsung Blackjack II, even with its quarty keyboard. And, I had terrible luck finding applications for that phone that were accessible. I have pages of apps on my iPhone that I use all the time. What frustrates me about Jonathan's article/email is that he wrote this before ever touching the iPhone and his position is quite clear about how he feels. And, like it or not, he's a "leader" if you want to call him that, in the access technology world. I don't mean leader in the traditional sense; I mean it in that he's a vice president at one of the largest blindness technology providers in the world and with that role comes some responsibility. Responsibility to not jump to conclusions and to speak rashly about products from competitors lest you take the appearance of being self promoting and carrying the company line. I'd love the opportunity to set down with Mr. Mosen and to show him just how productive I am on my iPhone. No, it doesn't run the KNFB reader and it doesn't have an advanced camera like some other phones in the world but it works a hell of a lot better than Mosen makes it sound in this article. I wonder if he would be willing to sit down and write out his observations after the iPhone has been in the marketplace for almost a month now. But, I bet he's never even held one in his hand so, as with his initial observations, any response he might give now would be baseless. _____ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:19 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone What I'd like to ask all these folks saying the iPhone is so inefficient is: How efficient were you three weeks after the first time you ever touched a QWERTY keyboard? It's a whole new model for human interface interaction. After three weeks, I have no problems just touching the battery status, or really much of anything else. Things are not hard to find. They do not move around, and the flick method of navigation is great when you are having trouble with a brand-new and unfamiliar screen. Sitting with an iPhone for an hour and then declaring it slow, inefficient, and difficult to navigate is just silly. :) The ever growing number of VI iPhone users will tell you the same. Sure, it takes time to be comfortable. Once you are, it's fantastic. :) Josh de Lioncourt .my other mail provider is an owl. Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
