Hello,
That's exactly what they are afraid of.

On Jul 13, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:

> Who cares if we win them over. We talk with our pocket books and, if  
> enough of us stop paying thousands for their products and hundreds  
> more each year in SMA agreements it will get their attention. It’s  
> like any other product and the markets they compete in.
>
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> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:01 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone
>
> You know I truly am not into slamming people, but in Mr. Mosen's  
> case, I have heard his previous show/podcast and just based on  
> observations from that and things he has said/written, I seriously  
> doubt he would sit down with you or an iPhone and certainly not to  
> be objective about his findings. I think he would be quite  
> argumentative and take a hardline on his position regardless of  
> whether he is proven right or wrong. In other words, you'd  
> accomplish nothing more than wasting your time and giving yourself a  
> headache. I'll not name names or so forth, but a conversation I had  
> with a particular adaptive technology developer ran along the lines  
> of me expressing my enthusiasm about the Mac and VO and how it was  
> nice to see their product could be used under a VM. Of course that  
> met with a very much "I don't care" attitude. I think I was looked  
> upon as being at the very least miledly daft and why in hell would  
> you want to use a stupid Mac when you have a great solution and a  
> good os at your disposal. :) So, the market being what it is, I  
> don't think you'll ever win him or most of these folks over. I guess  
> I sort of understand considering that Apple is truly a competitor  
> now and any competition is a threat.
> On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:
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> Josh,
>
> I may complain about the keyboard but overall this phone is great. I  
> am more productive with this phone and able to do so much more than  
> I could with my Samsung Blackjack II, even with its quarty keyboard.  
> And, I had terrible luck finding applications for that phone that  
> were accessible. I have pages of apps on my iPhone that I use all  
> the time.
>
> What frustrates me about Jonathan’s article/email is that he wrote  
> this before ever touching the iPhone and his position is quite clear  
> about how he feels. And, like it or not, he’s a “leader” if you want  
> to call him that, in the access technology world. I don’t mean  
> leader in the traditional sense; I mean it in that he’s a vice  
> president at one of the largest blindness technology providers in  
> the world and with that role comes some responsibility.  
> Responsibility to not jump to conclusions and to speak rashly about  
> products from competitors lest you take the appearance of being self  
> promoting and carrying the company line. I’d love the opportunity to  
> set down with Mr. Mosen and to show him just how productive I am on  
> my iPhone. No, it doesn’t run the KNFB reader and it doesn’t have an  
> advanced camera like some other phones in the world but it works a  
> hell of a lot better than Mosen makes it sound in this article. I  
> wonder if he would be willing to sit down and write out his  
> observations after the iPhone has been in the marketplace for almost  
> a month now. But, I bet he’s never even held one in his hand so, as  
> with his initial observations, any response he might give now would  
> be baseless.
>
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:19 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone
>
>
> What I'd like to ask all these folks saying the iPhone is so  
> inefficient is: How efficient were you three weeks after the first  
> time you ever touched a QWERTY keyboard? It's a whole new model for  
> human interface interaction. After three weeks, I have no problems  
> just touching the battery status, or really much of anything else.  
> Things are not hard to find. They do not move around, and the flick  
> method of navigation is great when you are having trouble with a  
> brand-new and unfamiliar screen.
>
> Sitting with an iPhone for an hour and then declaring it slow,  
> inefficient, and difficult to navigate is just silly. :) The ever  
> growing number of VI iPhone users will tell you the same. Sure, it  
> takes time to be comfortable. Once you are, it's fantastic. :)
>
> Josh de Lioncourt
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