On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 11:56:10AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:

> _I_ndex as it used to be
> _L_abel as it used to be
> List/T_O_C  as it used to be.

I obviously have more patience than I thought.

> What's wrong with that?

Look again (or even perhaps read what I said ...). Or try it.

I want to see you patch Insert menu instead of talking. Two things will
happen:

o you'll recreate _I_ndex entry, but break _T_able or some other
  frequent entry, so the patch will be broken

o you'll manage to come up with a new mnemonic set that's an improvement

Either way I'm happy. I'm not interested in being "right".

Talk is cheap.

> BTW note, that both Index and Label are likely to be used several
> dozen times or more in a doc, whereas the toc is inserted just once.

I'm fully aware of this.  Which is why I made the more common ones have
the first letter as mnemonic, where at all possible. Such as _T_able,
which wasn't in the previous choices.

> So it seems prudent to have the 'intuitive' short cuts for the
> frequently used items. Which happens to be the old scheme.

No. Please look carefully before making incorrect claims.

> Why should I learn an entirely new concept to use LyX's UI?
> BTW, as long as I am in the 1% I definitely care for them.

Of course we care for them. But I don't make any sense out of an
argument that they outrank 99%. We do our best to not change things,
but sometimes changes are wanted. Even then, we try and cater for people
who have work to do by providing the old menu layout for them.

Furthermore I believe that after the painful period of adjustment, the
new layout is better even for them.

> > It means frivolous changes should be avoided.
> 
> Ok. Now, that does not go too well with the short cut changes and things
> like moving Preferences to the Tools menu, does it?

It is your opinion that they are frivolous. Your opinion has been noted
already, I think.

> it is not consistent with the other GUI apps I use

Would be a waste of my time to repeat myself.

john

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