On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 10:05:19AM +0100, John Levon wrote: > Hey, guess what, I've covered it several times ! > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-devel&m=105113183526929&w=2 > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-devel&m=105062632809542&w=2
>From a quick look this seems to be you defending your decisions, not somebody else requesting the change, and certainly not the broad agreement 'by the project leaders' you like to cite. On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 05:22:01PM +0000, Edwin Leuven wrote: > [...] > 4. move preferences to the end of edit [John:] No, over my dead body :) Your answer to Edwin is consistent to the one I get from you. Well done. However, this does not necessarily mean it is a good answer nor is it an indication of any kind of consensus. > IOW, such design choice had been made a long time ago, covered several > times, RFC'd at least 4 times, and defended to the satisfaction of the > people making the decision on whether to go with it or not. I am not exactly sure what you mean by "satisfaction" and "people making the decisions" here. Getting a "Do whatever you want, I don't care" from two people is not the way to shut up the others here... Even if these two are Lars & Jean-Marc. > Furthermore, your bleating is entirely useless, If you say so... > unless you actually do the work of proposing a FIX that retains ALL > the advantages of the new menu layout without introducing any new > problems. This stuff is hard and sometimes compromises are needed. Like making 'd' the short cut for Insert->Index when 'Index' is the only word starting with 'I' in that menu. Clever choice. Surely, this UI business is nothing an ordinary developer has to understand. [Yes, Angus, I remember I promised something a while ago... I'll be nicer later in the evening, ok? *sigh*] > The benefit of the context-sensitive area in this context outweighs > the loss of spatial stability. > > "Menus are a bastard to get just right." - Allan This one I believe. > But I'm entirely sure I'm wasting my time yet again in trying to > communicate with you. You are not communicating. You are stating your opinion. You are not addressing any of the points I nor, judging from the links you send, others made. Fancy a poll on lyx-users for some semi-objective 'real numbers'? Andre'